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Bobup
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So my 1125 has roughly 4500 miles on the original Diablo Corsa IIIs.

They aren't bald, but are starting to give a "slippery" feeling here and there in some turns (mainly when cold)

So I am thinking that new doughnuts are on the menu (I like chocolate raised)

Has anyone put the Scorpian Syncs on their 1125?

I love em on my CityX..and feel the added mileage would be nice (I get about 8000 on them)
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Clarkjw
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sycs have the same dimension, but use a single slightly harder compound and are just a bit heavier. They are also mediocre for the track. Any Pirelli that came out after 2006 can be put on the bike (thank WSBK for that). They are better for city riding though.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC, and hopefully he'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I think XB9 had them on his.
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Bobup
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't care about "track" use
I don't care about weight.

I do care about handling and road grippage.

Again...I have lost the "secure" feeling on the Corsa IIIs in 4K vs 8K with the Syncs

and yes, I do push towards the edge at times, just not ALL the time
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put a Sync read on my 1125R. Been using them since I got my XB9SX and love them.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Corsas have always(to me) been slippery when cold.
I've been full sideways several times.
Once they're warm, they stick like glue tho.

I got 6100 miles out of the first rear still running the OEM front at 12,700 miles.
Second rear is long in the tooth, but still good at 6600 miles.

I like this tire.

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on October 08, 2008)
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Bobup
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac

I don't like sideways riding....never was any good in the dirt....

I like my tires to "stick" period.....when riding home in my local canyon with temps of around 70...tires should give me that warm and fuzzy feeling we all like, but right now they are hinting at slippin and slidin....not my idea of fun

I enter this canyon after 10 miles of city, so tires are warm (not hot) so should be stickin for the 10 miles of twisties....they just don't feel that way now

Syncs it shall be....and it shall be Syncs
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Two_buells
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do care about handling and road grippage.

The new Battlax BT016 Ultra High Performance Radial Tires.
With dual compound fronts and triple compound rears.

I'm going to install a set of these on Friday. I loved the BT014's on my XB and XB12X




http://www.battlax.co.uk/battlax-bt-016/}
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Sheridan_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michelin PR2CT's are the best in my book. Great in the wet and cold, fantastic when they warm up, 6000+ miles and have about that much left.

there's my penny's worth,,,,

JJ
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Slypiranna
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sheridan_bueller,

So you've had these on your 11? If so, how do you describe the dry grip compared to the stock corsa's?

I've been told Scorp's too but I'd like to hear all the input possible.

Thanks! mm
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed the BT-016s. What a $$$ deal compared to the Corsa IIIs. I like them more than the Corsa IIIs, although new tires always are better than the worn out tires just replaced (and usually better than the distant memory of when the old tires were new).

The BT-016s are very stable in the corners and are sticky as they come.

Oh and I agree that the aged Corsa IIIs lost something over time and got skittish the last 1/4 of its lifespan.

I didn't get that feeling with the other tire I have the most experience on--Metzler M3s.
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Rocketray
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have been through 3 Corsa III back tires, averaging just over 3000 miles per tire. Excellent tires in every way except they wear out so quickly.

So, I switched to a Pirelli Scorpion on the back. I have over 5000 miles on it now, and it has about 500 miles left on it. It has held up OK in the corners but just barely.

At times, I'm an aggresive style type, riding edge to edge and I will not be buying another Scorpion. The Scorp definitely is a harder compound and does not have the nice 'stick' feeling of the Corsa IIIs. If you're having problems with 'stick' with the Corsa's, you will not like the Scorpions at all. In fact, Im pleased as punch to get this Scorpion worn out (finally) to try out a Continental Road Attack.

Bottom line: for Street, Wet, Highway, better mileage .... Scorpion is a great tire. But not for those tending to be more "on the edge".

Rocket Ray
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been tempted by higher mileage tires, but I like the extra insurance by riding the stickier variety. Just think how expensive it will be if you go down because you had a harder tire? Needless to say, there is a physical danger there as well.

Maybe you don't ride to the limit, but there are unforeseen circumstances we all face once in a while. If you are forced to take it to max lean angle for whatever reason, it is nice to know that your rubber is doing everything it can to keep you shiny side up.
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Pridayr
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really liked the Conti RoadAttack on my Lightning. The way they just fell into a corner, mmmmmmm.....

I was getting about 5k out of a rear. At the rate I put on miles, I haven't tried many other brands. Love the feedback.

R
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The last time I was sideways was a week ago.
I didn't tighten the rear valve cover in the right sequence, in a rush to get her to the shop for the new cam.
Looks like that's all I forgot to do when I brought her home.
Anyway, the seal rolled and I had a good size leak, dumping right on the rear brake and tire. : )

Lifted the lid, felt for buggers then tightened it properly.
Voilą, all clean again.

I prefer both tires pointed in the same direction.

Gotta add to this - the left side of my rear is scuffed into the knife-edge.
Right side is within 1/8" of the knife edge, half-way thru the trident.
I think that's why I'm getting better mileage in the summer, I'm on the sides more.

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on October 08, 2008)
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Kttemplar
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone used the Rosso? I would like to switch to the Rosso, but was wondering if anyone had used them and liked or not liked them and why.

Mike
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Blazin_buell
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 ON THE rOSSO , BTW anyone near a Cyclegear, they will be having their annual tire sale at the end of this month,ie. Pirelli Diablo front and rear $189.00 Too bad I'll still be broke from house closing costs , I'd love to be able to take advantage of that deal.
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Sheridan_bueller
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 02:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sly, it rains a lot here on the Oregon coast so I like a tire that coesn't spin out just 'cause it's a bit damp on the road. I can power wheelie thru second gear on wet roads without spinning the rear when it warms up and dries out, let me just say I have no direction arrows or chicken strips on the tires, no flat down the center. Handling is superb, feedback outstanding, wet or dry. I do ride easier in the weather but push it none the less. To answer your question, I believe they are just as sticky in the warm and dry and no contest in the wet weather. Exactly the same in the snow...both are worthless (my opinion).


Michelin fan, JJ
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