| Author | Message | ||
     Carl |
Ok I'm sure you guys have seen some of the problems I've had with my bike, hesitation at constant throttle, then before that charging issues. Well the charging prob was due to some corrosion, and thats all fixed. The hesitation prob has not been fixed, but I saw a backfire on start up come out of the intake manifold... great lol. So I tore the bike down, picked up some intake gaskets, and I'm working on that now. But I also noticed the spark plugs were original, and so were the wires. So now I'm on a mission to give this bike a complete tune up. Shes 8 - 9 years old now, and I don't think anyone has done anything to the bike except change the oil. Couple things... Where's a good place to get tune up parts for this bike online? (plugs, wires, o2 sensor, etc etc) And I can't find in the knowledge vault anywhere on how to do the intake gaskets. I can turn a wrench like a champ but can't work a simple forum search lol. Can someone link me to the X1 intake gasket change section? I already changed the fuel filter, that was pretty easy, is there anything else I should to while I got this thing apart? Making this thing run top notch is my priority, so money isnt that big of an issue. Should I change the rear CHT sensor while I have it apart? O2? Any suggestions? | ||
| Bikerjim99 |
TPS reset. New plugs. New air filter if needed. The bike should run fine with these items done, assuming that the bike is OK mechanically. Possible timing check. If you don't have a shop manual, get one. You shouldn't just replace O2 sensor or heat sensor, probably do not need to. Are you sure you need intake gaskets? Have you checked for air leakage? If you need them, replacement isn't too bad, take your time. Shop manual helps, and there are some good ideas on how to make the job easier in the Knowledge Vault - Engine - Intake section. | ||
| Preybird1 |
Ah ive been here before. 1. GET the manual 2. get an intake tool from al at American sport bike. Trust me!! 3. Get some sil glide, Its the stuff used for brake caliper slider pins and other uses, For the intake seals. 4.Get ecm spy and cable. 5. find a friend who may be close and willing to do part swaps to diagnose if possible! 6.I did alot of parts buying just for my bike just because i had to know they were good, But like i have been told by many try not to shotgun it with parts. How much of the bike have you torn down? I was lucky and someone close to where i live had extra parts so away we went swapping good known to function parts for the bad ones...Finally it was the ecm, I probably didnt need to do my intake seals but i was eliminating parts that were known to work and going from there. I did spark plugs,o2 sensor,rear head temp sensor,spark wires,race intake,race muffler,Swapped fuel cell, Put in intake seals and throttle body seals while i was in there.None of these made my bike any better,It did however change the symptoms up a lot. From not starting to high speed throttle cut out, to intermittent hiccups. So my o2 sensor came loose one day when i was riding, and it shorted out the ecm . It only showed up when at high throttle. The o2 pick up line to the ecm got a direct jolt to that input pin and bam! This was a real pain to figure out. So try and save some money!! If you must you can use some napa stuff Ive done it. I currently run a Chevy o2 sens. Boshc makes it, And i got car spark wires on instead. If you need part numbers. I will be working monday and can get them for you. Ngk iridium spark plugs. Standard fuel injection line 5/16ths inner diameter.44k fuel additive cleans fuel system, Worked very well for me! | ||
| Bad_karma |
Carl welcome to Badweb. If you look in Knowledge Vault then go to Manuals, Alerts, Tech Bulletins, Upgrades & Recalls section there is a S1 manual that covers the intake seal procedures. Tune up parts are as close as our sponsors, J&P, your dealer and the local auto parts store. Good luck Joe | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
The service manual will walk you through the process. When you put the intake manifold back in you're going to think it doesn't fit properly. There is about a 1/8" gap on each side that looks wrong but it works. | ||
| Carl |
ok I ordered a service manual, ecmspy cable and some basic tune up parts along with the intake wrench. I downloaded ECM spy... its in german lol... do they make it in english? | ||
| Creature_x1 |
start up ecmspy program. Near the top to the left, hit the button that looks like a gear and a wrench. From the menu, choose english and viola! ENGRISH!!!! | ||
| Carl |
Thank you! LOL... I think it will be much easier to use in a language i can actually understand. :-D | ||
| Preybird1 |
Nice i saved some major buck$$ doing this myself. I can see throwing money at parts but throwing money at a dealer is like trowing lemons at a lemonade stand. Ha once i got my manual it was smooth sailing with help of these bad a$$ guys here at badweb!! | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
3. Get some sil glide, Its the stuff used for brake caliper slider pins and other uses, For the intake seals. If this is silicone is not compatible with O2 sensors! Do not use silicone sealers or lubricants on FI equipped engines. | ||
| Yo_barry |
Hey Carl, When you have the throttle body off to replace the intake seals, use a solvent to clean the throttle body behind the butterfly. If the bike is stock, ie breathers feeding into the intake, it will be pretty dirty. There is a vacuum fitting on the bottom side of the throttle body --> CA models. If it's CA model and the the carbon canister has been removed, this fitting needs to be plugged. Replacing the manifold seals is not terribly difficult if you pay attention to getting the manifold lined up with the intake ports in the head. I've found that you can reach into the manifold and feel if you are lined up correctly. Then tighten it up. You will need a shortened allen wrench for the manifold screws. I cut off a piece of an allen that is about 1/2 to 5/8 long, stick this into the screw head and use a 1/4 inch wrench on the allen to tighten the screws. Typically the hesitation is caused by a vacuum leak. Barry | ||
| Bad_karma |
While you have the manifold off check the screws that hold the butterfly to the shaft. Make sure they are there and tight. Joe |
