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Rocketman
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:26 pm: |
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Thanks Jilles...... Bimota Now has anyone got a pic of the Vyrus ? That's the re-incarnation of the Bimota Tesi I've harped on about before. Rocket |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:01 pm: |
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Here are a few of my fave modern "naked" bikes: Ghezzi-Brian Super Twin 1100 Ghezzi-Brian Furia Norton America 880 Commando Ducati Monster (Sorry! It just seemed to fit the whole "naked bikes" theme!) HellBuelly Jay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/ "This is the way the world ends; This is the way the world ends; This is the way the world ends; Not with a bang, but a wheelie." --T.S1. Eliot |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:16 pm: |
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Let's try again with those Ghezzi-Brians...they're really worth it!
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Rocketman
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:22 pm: |
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But they're still shaft drive Rocket |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:52 pm: |
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Rocket, It's true that they have a shaft drive, but that didn't keep them from winning the Italian Supertwin Championship in 1996, beating the Ducatis. I wonder if that bike had a shaft drive? I also just read this month (I'll have to find the article) about a guy on a BMW R1100S winning his drag-racing class. Still, I do love my maintenance-free belt every time my friend John has to have a spline lube done (expensive) on one of his three BMWs! Here are a couple of pics from their web site of a four-valve-per-cylinder (Buell, are you listening?) bike that they intended to be run in Pro-Thunder here in the U.S. and one in traditional Moto-Guzzi colors. "Pro-Thunder: born to race in the AMA championship, this bike has been projected to meet our American importer request. Same Supertwin 1100 frame, it mounts MOTO GUZZI 4 valves motor empowered to 1225 cc, 130 HP, OZ aluminium forged wheels and oil radiator mounted inside fairing. At the moment only one single sample is existing and it is intended for whom, overseas, wants to compete in Pro-Thunder category, which is gathering more and more interests and where DUCATI 748, BUELL and HARLEY DAVIDSON race too." (from their site, http://www.ghezzi-brian.com/ ) Me likes 'em! HellBuelly Jay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/ "We shall wheelie on the beaches. We shall wheelie on the landing grounds. We shall wheelie in the fields, and in the streets; we shall wheelie in the hills. We shall never surrender!" --Winston "Buelldog" Churchill |
Rocketman
| Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:31 pm: |
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Bueller, I like the RED one, looks way mean ! I saw a couple of GB's at last years show. Hopefully they'll be there this year too. Rocket |
Vr1203
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 12:51 am: |
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Bueller, The red Guzzi is just right! |
Pilot
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 05:37 am: |
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Sean, Exchange rate details 35p buys 1Aus dollar 55c U.S. buys 1Aus Dollar Euro's and U.S. $ are very close at the moment. FYI.YMMV. Ross |
Vr1203
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
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Our worst fears are true, Jim M ,the Hondcent or Vinda is apparently a reality
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Vr1203
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:19 pm: |
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Heres the photo
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Vr1203
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 06:33 pm: |
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AGAIN ,sorry folks
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Blake
| Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:18 pm: |
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That Guzzi has dual front perimeter disks. That is unreal stopping power. Also lots of gyro effect, makes turn-in at high speed more difficult. Something tells me the Guzzi would be a pig in the tight stuff. Y'all like the red one with the even uglier than a stock Buell muffler? Eewwww! |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 01:53 pm: |
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Blake,I don't know about Rocket,but I really like the red one that Ray posted the pic of !!!Hope they one at San Mateo for the International Show in nov. |
Jim_M
| Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 12:21 pm: |
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Vr1203, It doesn't look right.... But I'll wait to see what other variations come out of it (not that I'll be able to afford any of them) |
Bomber
| Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:42 pm: |
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jeez, the first pics from their Vincent site had me wondering if I copuld mortgage the house . . .this one (which appears a bit more buildable) just ain't doin it for me . . . .kinda cobbled together |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:43 am: |
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Ah, finally found these...pics from a recent "Bike Nite" of a local guy (can't remember name) from New World Workshop in San Marcos, TX, who's selling Ghezzi Brians and also me on one. They are awesome in person! This is the guy selling them... And here I am... ...hey, I make this thing look good! It's how much? O.K., I'll be getting off verrrrry carefully now... HellBuelly Jay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/ "A HellBuelly should never drink Coke in a moving elevator. The chemicals in Coke coupled with the elevator's motion can produce hallucinations. People tend to change into lizards and attack without warning, and large bats will often fly in the window. Additionally, you begin to believe that elevators have windows." --HellBuelly Hunter T |
Ray_Maines
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:42 am: |
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Was that "drink" or "do" coke in a moving elevator? |
Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:17 am: |
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I wouldn't mind having a Guzzi some day, but I like that old green pickup in the background. |
X1glider
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 01:14 pm: |
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That engine and tranny look huge! The Buell drivetrain would seem like a paper weight compared to that. But, they are cool looking bikes. Probably easy to work on too. |
Rocketman
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 08:54 pm: |
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Looking at that RED one again, stick on some 'cow horn' bars and a little bikini fairing, instant STREETFIGHTER and I think that huge lump of an engine block looks kinda purposeful. Rocket (Thanks Ross ) |
Road_Thing
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:38 pm: |
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Yeah, Mike, you're right--the red bike's nice, but I want that snot green pick'em up in the background, too... r-t |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:49 pm: |
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Road Thing, I think that there pickup may be a permanent fixture in the parking lot at Jo's. I'll see if it's still there tomorrow... HellBuelly Jay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/ "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have rockerbox gaskets to replace, And miles to go before I sleep And miles to go before I sleep." --Robert "Rumbler" Frost |
Ray_Maines
| Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 09:50 pm: |
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"Aprilia's only new model for 2003 is the Tuono Fighter, which is a less-costly version of the original Tuono shown last year. Aprilia has fitted it with downgraded suspension and bodywork to keep the price tag competitive with Ducati's Monster S4." See a few more pictures of the KTM Duke 950 |
Bykergeek
| Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 06:28 am: |
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The Tuono is an awesome looking maching but so is the Falco and unfortunately, they haven't sold well. It sucks that the nekkid bikes we all love are a niche market. |
Psychobueller
| Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 03:49 pm: |
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I don't know. The Tuono does absolutely nothing for me. It has wierd angular lines and looks like it's supposed to be "hi-tech" and "edgy"...too contrived. There's too much confusion in the design. My M2 looks organic and beautiful next to it. Now, the new Kawi Z1000, even with it's "edgy" design, talks to me more than the Tuono. Maybe it's the 4 exhaust pipes. But what's with the fake "frame" piece...really cheesy. I'm a sucker for mechanical honesty. I don't think I'm going back to a 4-cylinder anytime soon. IMHO, the XB9S is the best looking naked bike out there. It just looks awesome in person. |
Redstripe
| Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 04:05 pm: |
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Which goes to show it's all a very personal thing. I think of the models mentioned completely the opposite way... -wouldn't have to do with the fact I sell Tuonos- Yet the model expected to be launched and will definately "mop the floor" with all of the aforementioned models, I guess, is the "Beast". Produced by Sachs. You know, the guys that made gearshifts for pushbikes in the seventies and eighties. I'll wait and see... Jilles. |
Rocketman
| Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 09:50 pm: |
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I liked the look of the new Kwak, not that it's my kinda ride, but you know, Kwak have made the same mistake as Yamaha did with their naked R1. The bikini fairing is to far forward and far to low. Function over form me thinks ! Rocket |
Sportyeric
| Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 02:37 am: |
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Redstripe. I'm curious whether the limited edition Tuonos, the fully done up ones, were hot sellers, or easy to buy? I'd buy one if I could but I'm in Canada and can't get an Aprilia through the border, although someone is supposedly working on a dealership network. At last years bike show I was hoping to try out a TL1000 and a VTR for fit, side by side, and neither was represented here (Vancouver) because nobody on the west coast seems to buy either. Naked bikes just aren't desired except by us weirdos. |
Rick_A
| Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 09:52 am: |
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but wasn't the whole streetfighter movement driven by hooligan bikers who wanted bare bones sportbikes that had the least possible amount of bodywork/expensive equipment to damage in the event of a get-off? Were the first streetfighters not bikes that got inexpensive crash makeovers? Most of the above bikes do not seem to fit the criteria. |
Sportyeric
| Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 06:21 am: |
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Well, Rick. In my case, I don't like the full race models 'cause at 6'6", my knees don't fit in the space provided. And at my age, my back doesn't fit with the posture provided, although the sporty brings me close, with the clip-ons and all. The cost of body work in a get-off is the least of my concerns. Haven't had one in twenty five years, hope not to for another. But there's usually bigger issues than body-work (for the bike). I'll concede that I'd be more reluctant to run the fancy-schmancy carbon-fibre bodied, really expensive bike on the the track, for fear of a get-off. And equally, I may buy the cheaper version for the same reason. But my main riding bud has CF bodywork and really expensive paint on his S1 and still rides like a nutbar. (Me too.) The naked thing is partly style, partly rationality (full-fairings become important over 100mph), and partly the ergonomics that come with it. (An RC51 with helibars may be adequate for me.) It seems to me that there is still a range within the naked-bike category, from the minimalist to the standards, to the stripped race-reps. My problem with Buells current modern offerings is the emphasis on weight reduction, which is fine for the minimalist thing but doesn't serve for the sport-touring and passenger niche, as the S2/3 did. I can see throwing some soft bags and a tent on a Tuono or a VTR. I don't know if that program would work on the XB. Both physically and power- to- weight-wise,(luggage included.) I guess the difference is street-fighter vs. naked bike, and I can't fit enough bikes in garage (in fact I don't have a garage) to be that focussed. |
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