| Author | Message | ||
     Imshaun |
I'm having the 1000k service done tomorrow and they have a d&d pipe in stock which they are going to put on. I've read a lot of conflicting reviews on this pipe... now i'm having second thoughts if I should leave the stock exhaust. If I don't put the exhaust on, that leaves $700 or so for other accessories. Can I get a few opinions. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
There really isn't any point in changing the exhaust on these bikes til we can tune the fuel injection. Sure it'll be louder than stock, draw more attention (including by the law) but every dyno sheet I've seen from exhaust systems for the 25r creates a hole in the powerband somewhere. I was gonna get an exhaust for mine too, til it was explained to me by XB9 that it's best to wait til we can do something with the ecm. | ||
| Imshaun |
Good point. Hypothetically speaking, when there is a tuner available, could this be an okay exhaust? | ||
| Samcol |
The hole in the dyno is what's stopping me from getting a new pipe. I can't stand the sound of stock, but the bike is running phenomenally especially after the new ECM update | ||
| Rah7777777 |
its too dam loud! plain and simple! I'm all for a loud pipe (love my special ops on my XB) but the D&D for the 1125 is just too loud! | ||
| Rainman1ne |
You would know! We need to go on another ride again  | ||
| Rah7777777 |
HAHA! whats up Justin! Yea, we need to tear it up sometime soon! My Buddy Kevyn just picked up a CR, I would really like to see it side by side with your bike! P.S. did I tell you how kick ass the white looks? | ||
| Rainman1ne |
I've done a little more since the last pics i posted, wheels will be gone Monday for powder coating (white). Give me a call this weekend if anythings up. E-mail me if you don't have my # anymore Rainman1ne@aol.com | ||
| Buellsrule |
Simple answer to the thread title...NO. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
A couple of points here guys; I also wanted just the right louder sound from my 1125 and built a system posted elsewhere on this forum with a turbo muffler that fits well entirely under the engine. I got just the right sound but am still running a modified stocker until an ECM programmer comes along. I do not like the price of the Buell racing ECM and needing a racing license causes a small problem also. Now if you do a search you will see what Zac4Mac has done to his stocker as well as myself and a few others. It requires you to remove the muffler and open up the two pipes inside the little stainless extensions. I used a 1/2" hole to start and dremeled out to an oblong hole about 1x1 1/2". Sounds great. A nice rumble at idle and not too loud to attract too much attention at full bore. I still do not like any of the after market systems out there and why I built my own. Both mine and the stocker are hidden behind my full lowers. Bob | ||
| Imshaun |
Sounds like you know what you're talking about. I wish I could build my own.... Any who, im off to the dealer. I've decided not to put the pipe on. I was originally interested in the pike because the sound was just soo cool. Loud but cool. I saw one kid's 1125r w/ the D&D, everyone had a shocked look on their face like how the hell is so much noise coming out of that thing. | ||
| Pridayr |
I think they look pretty tight, too. Any way to do a mesh cone or something? Make your own DB killer? I'm probably going to do the stocker modification to mine. That really appeals to the cheap bastard in me. R | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
Ive had my D&D on since June now, i love it, i didn't get it to make more power. I got it simply for the sound and to be heard, im believer in loud pipes save lives and i can vouch that my pipe stoped many people on there cell phones from pulling out on me. maybe if you drive out in the middle of no where this is not an issue but i drive through cites and high traffic areas a lot on my commute it saved me from a few close calls. that's just my take on it and the bike may be loud but sounds amazing, not to mention its 19 pounds lighter. and on a further note when i took off my stocker it was already showing lots of rust build up on the top of the muffler where water gets trapped. | ||
| Imshaun |
Bueller_bjorn, Finally someone w/ a d&d. Just a few questions. Did you notice a reduction in power by chance? Do you ride the bike with ear plugs? Does it bring attention by the poeleece? | ||
| Kttemplar |
Imshaun, It sounds like you want to get the D&D. The dynos show an increase in power. It is very loud. If you want it, get it and figure out the rest later. If you do not get it, you either will eventually or wish you had. Just my .02 Mike | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
Imshaun So far no problems from the LEO, i have had a few behind me for over 10 miles and didn't do anything but i was also trying to keep it quite by keeping RPMs super low but when I go by a cop it does grab their attention most the time. as for power, i havent noticed any loss but did feel a small gain in higher RPMs. As for ear plugs well for a long day of ridding i would wear some but its bearable depending on how sound proof your helmet is, the pipe throws most the sound behind you so its worse for the person next/behind you  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Earplugs should be worn no matter how loud your pipe is....wind noise alone is damaging to your hearing. | ||
| Imshaun |
Thanks for all the advice. After talking with the parts guy at hd, ive determined to get the pipe. He says when there is a tuner available this will be a sweet pipe. It not surprising that the bike may surge or lean when you put such an open pipe on it w/out being able to remap it. Everyone will wish they had this pipe when they make a tuner. Everyone!... keep bugging buell and d&d... And k&n for that matter. | ||
| Blazin_buell |
Shaun, You should get a free pass from the the fuzz since you work with them, right?? I've had my D&D on for almost 4 months and passed ,been next to and passed many Johnny Law with no probs. In another thread I mentioned having it dyno'ed to determine my air/fuel ratios before hitting the track. Between 2-3k is where it's REALLY lean,but from 4k on up it's good to a little rich. With my K&N and pipe she netted 137hp/74lbs at the wheel, which was more than I was expecting from what I'd read about the pipe. I've got a homemade baffle wrapped with fiberglass packing, which cuts the sharpness of the sound and takes it down a few decibels. It consists of two different diam. tubes with a perforated piece welded in the middle and slid into the end. I had the '09 map loaded in Sat. and that made all the difference in the world. So much smoother everywhere. I hope this gives you some peace of mind that you made the right choice, and BTW you can find D&D's for a lot less$$$ ,between the $4-$500 range if you search enough.   | ||
| Imshaun |
Blazin_buell, LOL. Yah I work in the heart of the police station. I was just nervous about representing the sheriff's office w/ a loud a$$ pipe. Well, I talked to one deputy. He said he has yet to pull over a bike because the pipes are loud. Im sure if you're being an a$$ to him during a speeding violation, he will plop on the $54 noise violation. But anywho... I brought the bike for service today. I will have it tomorrow. In the mean time they are doing the 1000k, loading on the new update and installing the pipe. Geesh, its expensive. I wish I could service my own bike. I have more questions. So, everthing you mentioned, Is that all done by youself, do you have your own shop? If so, it seems like you know what you are doing. Can you explain a little more about the baffle deal? Was that difficult? Are you gaining a benefit from that tape on the headers? Is that a vent in your airbox? BTW, the silver rims are nice. -Shaun | ||
| Imshaun |
Blazin_buell, I'm just studying your pictures. So I see, you installed the led tail light w/ integrated signals. How did you mount your plate? That looks soo much better. Also, did you shell out the money to have k&n put a filter on for you? How did you get one? | ||
| Dhdjr |
I've had my D&D on for a few months & am VERY happy w/ both the sound & the look of it. I feel safer knowing I can be heard if not seen. Blazin buell nice pics where did you get the red covers on your headlamp lens? thanks all | ||
| Geforce |
I have a D&D... all I can say is that it scares people. Seriously. It has already saved me from being run over a couple of times to, all it takes is one whack on the throttle and people pay attention. A dude driving a short bus wouldn't let me over and he was on his cell phone in heavy traffic, he didn't even see me, so I pulled up and positioned the bike close to his open window and Whacked the throttle open, he jumped, and dropped his phone. I got in though! | ||
| Pridayr |
O.K. I think I'm in.  R | ||
| Imshaun |
I've been riding my bike today with the new pipe. It sounds so nasty  . I was in an albertsons parking lot and scared this lady to death when she was loading her car with food as I started the bike. I also purposely parked next to a guy who was on a cell phone with his window down, he rolled the window up lol. BTW, the dealer also loaded the new update. Runs smooth. I'm in love. I'm married, but it feels like im cheating on the wife. | ||
| Geforce |
Make no mistake though fellas, it is LOUD. And I highly recommend you all wear some ear plugs if you go riding for more than say 30 minutes, it also depends on your helmet etc... but realize your hearing doesn't come back. I love mine, but I also take steps to ensure I can hear it in the future. Also, yes it does scare people when you crank it, it pops like a gun blast then starts chopping, so I always make sure I move away *if I can* when I am in parking lots and such just as a kind gesture. Sounds so wicked when you whack it to about 8k RPM and start flying. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I sorta don't get the glee some of you guys get by being obnoxious with your noisy pipe. The general public (including those that can pass laws to make our lives as riders difficult and/or more expensive) already dislikes us. Why make it worse? (Message edited by fresnobuell on October 01, 2008) | ||
| Samcol |
The general public already does not approve of sport bikes as a whole. Might as well be heard and avoid possible collisions. | ||
| Geforce |
Some people enjoy watching Golf on television... who am I to judge? To each their own, I understand that some people do not appreciate it. My father is 69 years old and I started the bike for him and he was appalled at the noise. BUT he said, that he'd rather it be loud and obnoxious than quiet, for my safety, and for that he was pleased. Understand this is a man who listens to talk radio at a minimal volume all day and shrieks in outrage at my "crazy rock and roll". So at Wal Mart, parking lots, in traffic idling, I try to keep it down for others, but when I am on the road it's loud, and I want it that way. I try to respect mother's carrying babies crossing the parking lot and such by waiting until they are well away before I crank it up. I'd hope other responsible riders and citizens extend those gestures as well. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
The general public already does not approve of sport bikes as a whole. Might as well be heard and avoid possible collisions. It just follows the general societal trend of people not respecting other people. Maybe when you guys mature a bit you will better understand. I think we are on thin ice as sportbike riders and anything we can do to NOT offend others is helpful to the cause. We are in the vast minority as riders (and even a smaller niche as riders that own sportbikes.) It wouldn't take much for the politicians to come up with some crazy law to limit HP or displacement....and make it harder or impossible for us to bypass those limitations. And all those people who you are scaring with your loud pipe will be right there on that bandwagon. |
