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Buellborn
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/

American motorcycle manufacturer Roehr has announced the completion of its pre production run of the Roehr 1250sc.

The Roehr 1250sc uses a Harley Davidson V-Rod engine. The 1250sc uses quality motorcycle parts from the likes of Ohlins, Marchesini, Brembo, Akrapovic and Pirelli. These parts added to the Roehr’s bi-metal composite beam frame make for rapid handling.

Roehr motorcycles are hand crafted in the USA and Roehr are now taking orders for the 1250sc. The price of the motorcycle is yet to be announced.
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Trackdad
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the link to the most recent article including a video...article says cost is near a college education!!

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/roehr-motor cycles-1250sc-review-86824.html
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Pridayr
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My understanding is about $60k.

Check out the review at:

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/roehr-motor cycles-1250sc-review-86824.html


Rob
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Clarkjw
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Needs a ZTL-2 front brake and Jenny Craig
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Mikellyjo
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Needs more than Jenny Craig. This thing makes buying CF wheels look like child's play.

Doesn't' seem to be a fair comparison though...I mean the 1125r is priced for the "average" American. The Roehr seems to be priced for the elite.

It's like comparing the VW to the Porsche (no offense Porsche test junkies), sure they are made by the same people...imagine what the HP rating would be if you put that supercharger on the 1125r.

Sorry...that's my .02 cents whether you like it or not.

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Pridayr
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's cool, but sounds like it needs the suspension sorted out.

Rob
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Pariah
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's some video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXwMHLU1z1c
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Misterrich
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Base model is 49k. Ill stick with my buell
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Crowley
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much?



I'd much rather have my 1125, unfinished product or not
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4cammer
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Made (Engine Too).....I'd rather have the Rotax engine, thanks all the same.

I think Erik would have used the V-Rod engine if it made sense.
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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regardless of the price or what it is I am happy to see another American taking time and serious effort to make such an amazing machine. In a lot of ways these are probably some of the similar responses that Erik had back in the 80s when his dream of an American Sportbike was first taking shape. I think if anything we should be proud to have it join the ranks.

Yes it's pricey, but damn, look at that sucker go! It even sounds cool. Hats off to Roehr!

Now, where are the keys to my 1125r?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard Erik started the V-Rod project or something..
The engine got too big for what he wanted and then he pursued Rotax.

It is the internet tho..

Z
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Mustangturbo
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that it's really cool... Sometimes I wish that Eric would've used a worked over V-Rod motor. So that we'd have a bike that was all sorted out. With a little TLC I think that the V-Rod motor could very easily compete with our Rotax sourced engine.
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Ruprecht
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Supercharger sure sounds cool.
I don't suppose there's room to supercharge an 1125?
Prefer the helical twin-screw to the centrifugal types as well...
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Black_snowman
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Superchargers require lots of space and ad significant weight and rotating mass. Fine if all you want is power, but saps handling. There is definitely no room on the 1125 bikes to add one unless you created a new motor from the ground up or a completely new frame.

The V-Rod motor just isn't a sportbike motor. it's a power-cruiser motor. It's just really hard to make something that heavy and with that much rotating mass flick.

Just got back from my 2nd track day and I can say that I'm REALLY happy with the 1125 motor. It's so friendly to use and with the awesome chassis I can run up on people in turns who have a knee down without touching with my own puck. The bike just turns so quick! When I finally do get a knee down, I'll be flying through those corners.
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Rfischer
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roehr started his prototyping using one of our Highland 950 V2 motors. Waaay lighter [1/2 the weight of the V-rod, not including the SC hardware], but hp limited to about 130 or so, maybe a bit more if punched-out to 1000cc. Woulda' cut $15K off the price too. However, he was/is of the view that he needed rice-burning repli-racer power to sell his idea. At $50K +, not gonna happen so it's all wasted effort....

(Message edited by rfischer on September 22, 2008)
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Chameleon
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

imagine what the HP rating would be if you put that supercharger on the 1125r

Yeah, would be fun.
http://www.spoonvalleyracing.se/page2.html
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take 2! Jeez, for that much coin I would take a 1098R with plenty of change or 4 1125r's
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait, wasn't the V-rod engine developed in conjunction with Porche?
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Diablo1
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd rather have this than either the Roehr or the Duc-1098R. Probably could get two for the price of either.

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/22september08_april ia2009rsv4.htm
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Buelltoys
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, the V-rod engine was developed with Porche.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I sure hope they have that Aprilia at the IMS show this Fall/Winter. Pretty neat..is this Aprilia's first stab at making engines in house?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the price for the street bike? My WAG is $18K for the standard and $24K for the Factory
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Chameleon
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The RSV4 is Rotax-powered, just like all the other Aprilia bikes.

Oh and for an all-American bike, I'd go with the Motoczysz C1.
It's Z4 engine config is revolutionary!

(Message edited by chameleon on September 25, 2008)
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Diablo1
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The RSV4 is Rotax-powered, just like all the other Aprilia bikes.

Nope. The V4 was developed in-house by Aprilia. Two other engines developed in-house by Aprilia are the 450 and 550 V-twins. The 550 twin won the Pike's Peak Hill Climb this year - fastest overall in all classes. It also makes a potent dirt tracker. They have other engines developed in-house by Piagio (Gilera) - the 90 degree V twins used in the Shiver, Mana and Dorsodura. The RSVR, Caponord, and Tuono are still powered by the Rotax V-60 twin. Aprilia has made hints that they will eventually replace the Rotax motor - perhaps with one of the V-90s or ???}
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Chameleon
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm, I sit corrected!
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