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Phelan
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 09:16 pm: |
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Which car oil filter was it that I can use for x amount more capacity? I need to to an oil change and would like to hold more oil. |
Carl
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 09:33 pm: |
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I'd like to know too, I'm tired of using the PH6022's, they are just too small. |
Bernd
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:00 pm: |
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Sign me up for the biggy!! |
5liter
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:04 pm: |
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http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5185.html I use the 5187 on my S3T. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:13 pm: |
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Go to Wall-Mart and buy Super Tech ST8A(BLACK) which is the biggest you can install ... It will be cheaper than anything else ... Been running them for years now ... |
Bandm
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:31 pm: |
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Fram PH8A, Motorcraft FL-1A, WIX/NAPA 1515, AC Delco PF2, Mobil M1-301, Bosch 3500, K&N HP-3001. All the same size, adds about 3/4 quart. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:01 pm: |
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Super Tech ST8A(Wal-Mart) is the same as Motorcraft FL-1A ... |
Bernd
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |
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Sweet. Thanks for putting that up. Just for giggles I'm going to measure the capacity. |
Beachbuell
| Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:38 pm: |
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You could also use the stock HD long filter in black or chrome. I do not have a part number right now. But, I will in the morning. They run like $12 at your local shop. |
Phelan
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:18 am: |
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Well, I work at Wal-Mart an like Fram filters, and I get a 10% discount, so this info answers my questions perfectly. I'll pick one up tomorrow. Thanks . |
Xldevil
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:45 am: |
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You could also use the stock HD long filter in black or chrome. I do not have a part number right now P/N 63812-90 Ralph |
Beachbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 06:20 am: |
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You only get 10% off? Cheap bastards! Thanks Ralph! |
Eshardball
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 07:32 am: |
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I believe that this was in the knowledge vault but there are differences in the filtration capabilities and quality of construction from filter to filter. I use the HD filter under the delusion that it is better constructed and the relief valve(god help me if it's ever needed) is appropriate for the XL engine |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 08:42 am: |
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I like the FL1A on my tuber. I had one spin off while ridden in anger, so slap on a hose clamp such that it can't spin off. From memory, I think the one I had would interfere with some fixed part so just putting on the clamp was enough to keep it from rotating. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 10:12 am: |
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I had an old Mopar 318 die from crap getting through a Fram filter. Never again. |
Bandm
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:02 am: |
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http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html# OilFilters |
Xldevil
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 12:06 pm: |
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I use the HD filter under the delusion that it is better constructed and the relief valve(god help me if it's ever needed) is appropriate for the XL engine I second that. Buying a bike for thousands of Dollars/Euros,probably spending another thousands to match the personal needs,tast,wishes,whatever...and than risking the entire engine for saving 5 or 10 Dollars once or twice a year.? I donĀ“t intend to offend someones sensibilities,but that makes no sense to me. Ralph |
Pkforbes87
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 12:41 pm: |
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"saving 5 or 10 Dollars once or twice a year.?" Once or twice a year? You should change the oil more often, or get out and ride some more miles!
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Cbm2
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:33 pm: |
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In shop class we pulled apart all the different kinds of filters and Napa golds were easily the best (for automobiles). Every Fram that we looked at was VERY cheaply made compared to the rest. I suppose it is good enough if you change your oil a lot though. |
Farrisbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 02:49 pm: |
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Just thinking, but since these are a dry sump system, you may be adding volume to the overall system, but no more capacity without a larger oil tank. Wa da ya think |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 04:44 pm: |
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some good info here; http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index. html |
Sloppy
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 08:13 pm: |
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I second the NAPA gold filters. I have yet to find a filter that equals their quality and especiallty at their price point. Purolator Pureone is a close second. Ask for the '98 HD Dyna Filter. A little longer and has the appropriate differential pressure rating on the bypass valve. I don't think you gain anything with greater oil capacity. You gain filtration area which means that you can filter oil at a faster rate or your oil filter will filter for a longer duration. |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 09:31 pm: |
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Just thinking, but since these are a dry sump system, you may be adding volume to the overall system, but no more capacity without a larger oil tank. Wa da ya think You DO add capacity within the system. The oil is checked with it running, which means the filter will be full of oil, and the tank will be a little lower, thus allowing you to add more oil... Increasing the inside diameter of the lines will do the same thing as well, BUT, it will not increase the flow, due to restrictors, etc in the system to control volume and pressure. Adding an oil cooler, and its related lines with increase overall capacity as well... PLUS, as mentioned, the added benefit of the added filter surface area. More surface area across a filter, will generally mean less pressure drop. FWIW, I run the K&N HP 3001 in the Buell, and.... the skinnier alternate in the Sporty(dont remember the number off the top of my head). Run Mobil 1 in the Buell, and this time around, Royal Purple in the Sporty... Chase
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Phelan
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 09:44 pm: |
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I ended up getting a Supertech and Valvoline 4-stroke 20-50. I normally run Amsoil with an Amsoil filter but I didn't have the money since I was out of work for two weeks. Soon I will switch back to Amsoil 20-50 with Pure One or Mobil filter. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 09:40 am: |
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I have not used Valvoline 20-50 since the discovering that my Iron head Oil tank was full of foam instead of fluid. Amsoil, Mobil 1 or Castrol Synthetic for HD. I believe that Amsoil is the current manufacturer of HD synthetic at this time. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 09:46 am: |
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We seemed to have diverted from the intent of the original thread. If you add oil capacity you increase the cooling capability of the fluid. Look at the capacity of any oval track car oil pan. The increase in volume and weight is not without good justification. More oil is just better. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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On a "AIR COOLED" engine the oil tank acts like a radiator ... |
Eshardball
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 03:49 pm: |
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It's a shame that the oversize aluminum oil tanks are so expensive as they dissapate heat so much better than a plastic one does. Just think what an aluminum tank with cooling fins on it would do for the oil temp. |
Farrisbueller
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:26 am: |
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I know your not suppose to check the engine oil with the motor running, best way to overfill. If a larger filter adds capacity, why not coil oil return lines around the frame till you get how ever many extra gallons you want. Think! |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 11:51 am: |
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Farrisbueller: Remember that this i not a true wet sump, "BUT" a wet sump with an oil tank ... Good "IDEA" on more oil line for more oil capacity ... A oil cooler and a return line oil filter plus the extra oil lines worked for me ... |