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Andymnelson
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:06 pm: |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-Firebolt-XB-B uell-Racing-Programmable-Race-Tuner_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQcategoryZ35562QQihZ012QQitemZ220281628490QQrdZ 1QQsspagenameZWDVW Oh wait.... |
Northernyankee
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:34 pm: |
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Schmitty
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 03:42 pm: |
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This is legit, I'm pretty sure I know who's selling this. If I had the cash, I'd have swiped it up myself. Schmitty |
Northernyankee
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 04:38 pm: |
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This is legit, I'm pretty sure I know who's selling this. If I had the cash, I'd have swiped it up myself. Schmitty Dude just download EcmSpy and buy a cable...$30 all said and done. Why waste $500 on that. |
Point_doc
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:09 pm: |
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"It is a custom map for a 12 motor with 9 pistons, K & N filter and Micron exhaust and a lightened 2008 crank." ...yea that's what I want, someone else's customized program! They would like someone to pay $500 plus for a program that was designed to run on ONE bike. "I do not know much about how to use it..." BRILLIANT... (Message edited by point_doc on September 19, 2008) |
Schmitty
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:41 pm: |
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Guys, you're missing the point. The ECM is not locked to that program. You can reprogram it to whatever you want. He's just listing what he has done to his bike. The setup he's talking about happens to be a very popular, reliable club racing setup. It happens to be the setup I'm shooting for for next race season. Here's a thread that ends up talking about this setup towards the bottom. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/396111.html?1221856651The options for programming this thing are endless. Besides that, this thing cost $750 from Buell racing, and you need a race license. So it is a sweet deal! I do not know much about how to use it..." BRILLIANT... Hey Point, Do you know how to do a custom dyno tune on your bike? I know the guy who's selling this part and he's a standup guy! Not to mention the fact that he's smokin fast on the race track. Schmitty (Message edited by schmitty on September 19, 2008) |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:51 pm: |
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Thanks Ben!! Kidding. Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Bens right. This is not the ECM Spy crap everyone thinks is the end all be all. This is right from the factory. In fact, none of you should buy it because your not racers, and you'll never use it to it potential. Educate yourselves before opening your holsters. (Message edited by rocketsprink on September 19, 2008) |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:51 pm: |
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Neb25 IS fast as hell. Just ask them at the Buell Factory. They know. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:55 pm: |
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Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken.
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Schmitty
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 06:09 pm: |
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Why thank you very much! I was waiting for some backup to arrive on this one!! Schmitty |
Boltrider
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 06:12 pm: |
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Is that ECM for DDFI-2 or 3? |
Johntman
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:07 pm: |
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Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken. oh oh I know I know.... ROOSTER |
Point_doc
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:35 pm: |
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My intension was not to insult him or the program; the add is poorly written to represent the item and that makes it funny. It is Friday and I was just having fun with it. If you would like to take/make it personal have at it. Rocketsprink, maybe you can educate me? Either on the software or your meaning of the rooster? You pick the medium... (Message edited by point_doc on September 19, 2008) |
Js_buell
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:54 pm: |
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If it is ddfi-3 I could be very interested. I think I would get this even before my drummer |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 08:02 pm: |
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D. New DDFI-2 Programmable ECU Kit Kit includes new ecu, program and com box with cable. Note: Current year race license required to purchase. For race application only. Y2152.08AH $775.00 Fits XB models. That's a c0ck. Consider yourself educated. It's not so much what some people here say. It's how it's said. Some people need to loose the condescending attitude. Especially when they're not up to speed on a topic. (Message edited by rocketsprink on September 19, 2008) |
Iamarchangel
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:06 pm: |
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Replace the 4 red dots above with this word...and it ain't chicken. umm, bird... crow... comb... beak... fowl, that it. Fowl. Calm down. If you want to sell a product, just be honest and do it. Don't get your buddies to pump it. Don't try to insult and bafflegab everybody. Some people here are racers, not me.} |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:36 pm: |
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No one here is trying to pump anything up. Man, you guys read WAY to much into this shit. By all means, purchase the thing. I don't care if you race or not. But don't post something trying to make some one look stupid when you yourself have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't nor did Ben know he was selling the ecm till some one posted it. Bens just trying to say in a more polite way that it's NOT ECMSpy, but a Buell Factory PROGRAMABLE ECM offered through Buell racing. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:39 pm: |
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And the seller is being 100% honest. Would it have been better that he made stuff up and said he knows it inside and out? Hal's dyno tuned the bike for him. Last I checked, he didn't have a Dyno in his garage. They created a map that worked for HIS bike. Now if you buy it, dyno tune it to YOUR bike! |
Gearhead
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 09:58 pm: |
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Since both Rocketsprink and Schmitty are on this thread I'm going to do a little hi-jacking,,, Rocco how are you doing after your BHF get-off? Schmitty, I heard you had knee surgery, how's it healing? |
Andymnelson
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:42 am: |
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I wasn't ripping on anything other than a seller who doesn't seem knowledgeable of what he has. I would certainly have written a better description... Can someone "in the know" educate us as to what makes this "programmable ECU" different than my programmable ECU that came on my bike? Like, what makes it worth the $775 that Buell charges vs. the $209 they charge for a race ECU, other than requiring you to have a license? |
Id073897
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:23 am: |
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Can someone "in the know" educate us as to what makes this "programmable ECU" different than my programmable ECU that came on my bike? Your ECM isn't programmable. If you look at it with BMC's eyes. Regards, Gunter |
Andymnelson
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:30 am: |
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"Your ECM isn't programmable. If you look at it with BMC's eyes. " Exactly my point. Is this thing actually any different? |
Starter
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 01:47 am: |
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I suppose this would be like the consumer RaceECM on E-bay. Hopefully someone don't know what ECMSpy is. "Sell it while you still got a chance" |
Schmitty
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:31 am: |
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This ECM makes is straight factory kit. Not some knockoff like ECMSpy. If you guys don't like it, quit pissin on the guys parade and don't read the ad. Go buy your frickin ECMSpy cable and be happy. But for the race track and a true race setup this is the way to go. Schmitty |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 07:36 am: |
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NOW Gunter is pushing a product. Sorry Gunter. Still wouldn't buy it (ECMSpy). To each their own I guess. Some of you should apply for a job at Buell. Apparently you know more than the engineers there. Ben's correct. If you don't want it, don't buy it, don't read it, don't look at it. But shut your frickin' mouths about it. |
Hogs
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 08:09 am: |
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Rocketsprink, I don`t see GunTer pushing any products,( If anything Gunter should be PRAISED to NO END for what he has done for helping guys here ) Myself having not EVER talked to him Personality ..Especially since what I see its FREE, I MAde a cable so it was like 20.00 Bucks... NOW I will say I don`t know anything about the Factory ECM for Racers only.... Only that it would take DYNO time etc etc to get it right for ANY BIKE... Would ya agree here???? Also with the other software out there requires Dyno time to get it Dialed in... I am not sure what ya can or can not do with regards to the timing maps, adding/subtracting fuel etc etc... with either of these products, But had thought one was as good as the other, IF "One" knew what they were doing etc etc.. Now Ya can Flame on me all YA want.. But Perhaps others can correct me where I am Wrong here... I`m sure others would like to know the Advantages or Disadvantages of one or the other with regards to this... JUst a note, is one not a Dos program and the other Windows based...That alone may be something to think about... |
Id073897
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 09:44 am: |
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Still wouldn't buy it (ECMSpy). You can't buy it, even if you wanted to. But as you seem to know: how does the factory ECM differ from a stock one, except that you get some PC software with it? Regards, Gunter |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:01 am: |
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One was developed by schooled Engineers with a rather large advantage over a guy from Germany that developed his own. Gunter. I have no isuues with you. You developed a cheaper version of what Buell offers. You, please, explain to me how your product is the same as Buells. The issue I have is with all the assholes on this site that see fit to open their mouths and shit on some one they don't know. "Sell it while you still got a chance" What a stupid, uneducated comment. Like was said above, get your cables and get you ECMspy. I prefer to have my race bike tuned on a dyno. Again. Personal choice. Ralph. Ribs are a little sore still. That's what happens when you bounce off a tire wall. Missed the air fence by that much!! |
Id073897
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 11:35 am: |
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One was developed by schooled Engineers with a rather large advantage over a guy from Germany that developed his own. You seem or want to misunderstand me. I didn't ask about the software, but about the diffences between the ECMs. All I know is that these are almost identical, and differ only in the "for race use" sticker and the BMC supplied software. As you pointed out several times, the factory race ECM has advantages over the stock one. I would like to know which these are. Regards, Gunter |
Bads1
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:15 pm: |
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Here we go again. Its not the factory Race ECM that the general consumer can buy. This is the race ECM that is in Race Bikes that you can only get if... 1. You have a race License. 2. Its no different then whats in a XBRR. 3 For closed coarse racing only. |