| Author | Message | ||
     Bcrawf68 |
Dear BMC, The 1125r is a very good motorcycle. However, you have let us down by selling the bike before you got all it's issues settled. Boiling gas, poor driveability, leaky slave cylinders and a host of other problems have conspired to drive the resale price of this bike into the ground. While many of us really like our 1125r's, we are very discouraged by the poor reputation the bike has acquired. Dear BMC, please fix this. You don't have to take a loss in this situation to restore some of this bike's luster. May I suggest that you do something special for your anniversary bike. Sell us race ECMs for cost. Figure out some silly way to do this without putting yourself at risk with the Feds. Next, start putting out more howto information on improvements. Perhaps here, on BadWeb, in an informal manner. Finally, partner up with an aftermarket supplier such as americansportbike.com to deliver more performance parts to us at economical prices. Dear Buell, make us early adopters feel smart for buying this bike instead of feeling like chumps for paying our hard earned money to help out with your R&D. | ||
| Buellborn |
Nice post.  You 2008 boys deserve special recognition for all you have done. Just reading the post here shows much love and hard work has been put out to make the bike all it could be. 2008 1125 owners we salute you!  | ||
| Two_buells |
“You 2008 boys deserve special recognition for all you have done. Just reading the post here shows much love and hard work has been put out to make the bike all it could be” You guys should have been around in 1999. The first year for Buell Fuel Injection. It was before there were any Harleys that had Fuel Injection and there were not many dealers that knew how to work on the FI bikes. There were many ECM updates, Swingarm, shock recalls. Muffler Brackets breaking, etc. The new bikes don’t have 1/100th of the issues that the old ones had. Resale value/ dealer discounts: I bought one of the first 2003 XB9R’s for MSRP. Six months later dealers were selling them for $2000.00 to $3000.00 off MSRP. BTW the Firebolt and 06 Uly that I’ve owned were the best Fuel Injected bikes ever! Zero problems for me! My 1125R is my 7th Buell and I still think it’s the best one yet! | ||
| Crowley |
I was riding Buells well before '99. One of my 2001 X1's is my best Buell to date. Buell UK have promised to resolve my 1125 issues with updates in early Sept '08. The 'phone is still silent. One dealer said he hoped that I understood that I was a 'Guinea Pig' when issues started with the bike and I couldn't get any information since it was the first in the UK. Despite this, I love my 1125 and am willing to tolerate its post sale development - whether a non Buell enthusiast would be so understanding is debatable. Since March, it's been off the road for extended time periods since the parts haven't been available in the UK to fix problems. After every ride I have to clean Dot4 clutch fluid off my boot and some paintwork is now trashed as well. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Granted I haven't had mine for very long, but these issues that we're having haven't hindered my experience at all except when I have to put along at 20 mph in a school zone and she bucks and stumbles a bit. The solution, take the long way around the school zones. | ||
| Pariah |
I think once you're through break-in (sorry if I'm mistaken--- somehow, I recall you getting your bike recently), she'll be running much more smoothly (my experience anyhow). I got a lot of faith that the coming ECM updates will solve things for many... BMC gives the impression that they're looking out for us (as the software updates and fifth gear recall demonstrate). (Message edited by Pariah on September 14, 2008) | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Mine just ticked over 600 miles last weekend. It has gotten much smother at 609 miles than it was at 9 miles when I took delivery. I'm very happy with my bike, and if the ecm fix will make it even better, great. If not, I'll enjoy riding it just the same. | ||
| Helicon |
I love my 1125R, but am anxiously awaiting the ecm update. The wife complains that riding the bike is actually painful because of how hot the frame/tank gets. I would agree that the frame does get uncomfortably hot. The wife has all but stopped riding the 1125R completely because of the heat issue ... which has led to numerous arguments. Part of the agreement for me to purchase the bike was that she would use it to commute to work to save on gas. Well, unfortunately the 1125R has spent most of the summer sitting in the garage, and I have ridden it more than she has (which isn't necessarily a bad thing  ). The heat issue is the biggest problem because it leads to uncomfortable riding and a stinky garage/house. I also believe that the extremely hot running conditions is leading to bad gas mileage. I can ride for a short distance, get home, put my finger under the vent tube and actually see the fuel condensation on my finger. I don't believe that I should have to fan the garage out after every single ride. I try not to bitch alot on the forum, but its easy to understand why some of us are, at the minimum, frustrated. On that note ... I will say that the 1125R is a blast to ride and continues to put a smile on my face. I just hope that Buell is able to address and fix the few issues with all of our 1125R's. | ||
| Snackbar64 |
Have any of you guys ever considered the possibility that there is no fix and this is the best Buell can do? Think about it for a minute. Why would they continue selling the bike and building new models with the same issues even after the magazines ripped them for most of these issues already? Maybe the best Buell can do is give you a bike that lives up to your wildest dreams of being twice the bike the XB series is in terms of raw power. The draw back is that the quirks below that ultimate thrill are simply the nature of the beast. A tiger would be the perfect animal to own and protect your home if only it wouldn't have that instinctive ability to kill you in two seconds. Nothing that can be done about that, I guess. Maybe the overall design and functionality of the 1125R is no different. If Buell could fix these problems, it would be the perfect bike perhaps and I don't know if a perfect bike exists from any manufacturer. | ||
| Oddball |
You could be correct but that won't bode well for the sales and lifespan of the 1125 model line. 09 will show the hand I suppose. With enough improvement and better reviews it's sales may rise over 08. If not, we may be looking at the peak right now. 2010 would have to be a hell of a redesign in that case or stick a fork in it. I hope for their sake 09 shines bright. | ||
| Snackbar64 |
I hope I'm wrong, but they have been testing and riding this bike long before we ever got our hands on it. Erik must be happy with the finished product, as surely he owns one. Give me that 1125 design, transmission and dash display with the old Thunderstorm motor stroked to deliver a little more oomph and I'm happy. | ||
| Mustangturbo |
There is still a lot that needs to be worked out. I just hope that Buell works with us, so that we don't end up paying for the little fixes that need to be done. | ||
| Clarkjw |
Eric probably has a custom map on his 1125r's race ECM. He also may have other tweaks. So saying he'd be happy with a customer version is a bit off. How much will the new "targeted injectors" cost? It really shouldn't be more than 200, and Buell should sell them at cost. I'd love to see a 08 upgrade kit for less than 500, including labor. (Message edited by clarkjw on September 16, 2008) | ||
| Teach |
I am hoping that the new reflash will solve or minimize the problems that are occurring with the 08's. Either that or the aftermarket will come to the rescue. I believe Buell is handcuffed by the EPA regs and that is causing some of the problems. | ||
| Easyrider |
I like the part about the ECM...  | ||
| Xl1200r |
How much will the new "targeted injectors" cost? It really shouldn't be more than 200, and Buell should sell them at cost. I'd love to see a 08 upgrade kit for less than 500, including labor. Based on your logic, I should be able to roll into my Buell dealer with my 2007 XB12R and ask them to install all of the updated parts from the 2008 model for cost. How dare a manufacturer improve it's product. Sheesh. | ||
| Blake |
+100 for XL1200R. Some folks just like to gripe. I strongly suggest that anyone who feels that they are a "chump" for purchasing their Buell 1125R, sell it and never look back. Life is way too short. | ||
| Clarkjw |
I guess XL1200r and Blake don't ride in urban areas. Perhaps you'd like all those who were burned by the frame to sue Buell instead of trying to have problems resovlved. That'll do wonders for customer relations! The 1125r was also sold without EPA estimates. I'm pretty sure that's not best practices, if it's not illegal. No, the analogy isn't the same. The 1125r is a totally new platform and "testers" should recive help in fixing serious performance flaws. Buell rushed this project, as evidenced by the reflash, 5th gear recall, lights, etc. Avoiding my legs burning is not the same as missing out on new color options. | ||
| Ducxl |
I had to "PC-III",and cam my stumble out of my Ducati FI. We Ducati owners got bikes "Homologated" for the street.We even got "Dual" injectors/cylinder. Trouble was,we didn't get sequential firing and instead got simultaneous firing. that created a problem down low in the RPMs' where the fuel couldn't atomize properly.....And the stumble was very annoying for years before i installed the "PC". Ducati NA did nothing for me. They did however switch to the "showerhead" injector after 2001 but that did nothing either for previous owners. Me...I'm watching for Buell to rectify those issues in later models....Then i'll pull the trigger on an 1125. You guys got what you got,unless it's a safety danger. | ||
| Court |
>>>+100 for XL1200R. Ill see your +100 and raise you +237. But, just in case, I'm going to see if I can make a case for Porsche to provide the 2009/2009 Direct Injection and PDK clutch on a 2008. . . . I'll tell them I got the idea on the internet.  >>>Buell rushed this project, as evidenced by the reflash, 5th gear recall, lights, etc. That is an inaccurate statement. Buell did not rush the project. Explain to me, having just gotten a reflash on my 2006 F-150 Ford, how a reflash is "evidence" of premature release. You gotta love the internet. | ||
| Clarkjw |
Your opinion has very little weight since you DON"T EVEN OWN an 1125r. Boiling fuel/200 degree frame not a "safety danger" as you so beautifully put it? Just cause Ducati didn't do anything for you doesn't make it right. Right now, there's not even a decent after market correction. | ||
| Clarkjw |
Court, since you obviously carry water for Buell, should I put you in my lawsuit as well? Is the +237 for the temperature of the Bike? | ||
| Mikellyjo |
Here is a better letter to BMC...and if this gets me kicked then so be it. Dear BMC, Thanks for having the b*lls to challenge the status quo. If there are a few man-ginas getting burnt, then please include a box of "pads" in the parts list for those who need the support. You'll here people crying about lawsuits and rebates...give them a big F.U. for those of us that spend more time riding and less time bleeding.  | ||
| Spectrum |
+1 what Mike said! | ||
| Clarkjw |
Where is Annony when you need him? | ||
| Mikellyjo |
He's probably out enjoying a ride.  | ||
| Clarkjw |
Ok u country bumkin. I welcome you to ride my bike into NYC for 1 day. You'll think it's a different bike. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
What sportbike would be a good ride in NYC? If that is your application, you probably bought the wrong bike... | ||
| Boliver |
Well I am sure satisfied with the performance and dependability that I get from my AMERICAN powered Buell.You Austrian fans may have to wait until H/D figures out how to support an imported motor. I sure love my AMERICAN Buell. | ||
| Clarkjw |
"Into" does not equal "in". Just 6 city miles out of the 40 commuted each day. The bike becomes nearly intolerable. And yes, my AMERICAN XB9r was sweet all around. Is it crazy to want the same from 1125r? (Message edited by clarkjw on September 16, 2008) |
