| Author | Message | ||
     Grovskopa |
OK so after 1 year I finally have a working rear shock for my X1. Of course I will start to do wheelies now wahey! Just curious how you guys do it? Rev it to 4000-5000RPM then quickly squeeze and release clutch? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If it's tuned right, you won't need the clutch. Mine won't let me use full throttle at all in first gear. | ||
| Grovskopa |
Wows... I can use full throttle no prob. Maybe because I have smaller 55 tooth rear pulley? (Message edited by Grovskopa on September 02, 2008) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Just take it easy for a while OK?  Pretend that you want it to last a few months! | ||
| Grovskopa |
Hahaha come on! | ||
| Djkaplan |
You can power a first gear wheelie up with the throttle, but clutching it up lets you start at a lower rpm and speed. I can clutch a wheelie up from a dead stop in first gear. | ||
| Grovskopa |
I can't power wheelie with current setup, maybe and just maybe if I pull handle with all my manpower  Maybe I will just put the bigger rear pulley on. | ||
| Cbm2 |
Stock it should be able to power up wheelies in first or second gear sitting down, and standing up it should be able to fairly easily get the front wheel up by just bouncing it a little without the clutch. | ||
| Skntpig |
Put it in second, lean back and pull the throttle. If this doesn't work trade it for a S1. | ||
| Grovskopa |
So I guess my small 55 tooth rear pulley doesn't matter?! | ||
| Mikef5000 |
My cyclone never power wheelied in first gear till I tightened up the rear suspension. That made all the difference in the world! Yes the smaller rear pully will make it harder, but it still should be able to power it up in first. Make sure: 1)you're in the powerband (not above it) 2)the rear shock is set stiff 3)you're chopping the throttle open FAST 4)you're opening the throttle all the way If all else fails, try taking it to your peak torque rpm, cruise steady, chop it closed and then chop it all the way open. This is pretty rough on the bike, but it'll damn sure put that front wheel in the air. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Well, the US spec X1, whack the throttle in 1st or 2nd ANYWHERE above 4k, and it WILL stand you on the tail light... SO... based on the rear gearing of the Euro bikes... get'er up around 4k... and chop the throttle as mentioned(snap shut, then snap open) while leaning back, maybe even a slight yank while doing so... if you have a problem... it aint running worth the damn. I have pulled mine up with a dead cylinder... Chase | ||
| Grovskopa |
OK brilliant will try that today! If I don't post something tonight I have died wheelieng | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Mine will hoist the front in first from 2500 to pretty much redline. | ||
| Grovskopa |
OK tried.. I didn't want to max engine too much since the coil is brand new.. In first gear 4000-5000RPM it is no prob. In second gear it doesn't even feel close. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Well, the gearing is going to have an effect... from 4k, up, you shouldnt have a problem getting the front end up... just have to find YOUR sweet spot, balance, etc... Chase | ||
| Skntpig |
Your coil does not require any type of break in period. Give it the berries. Try the full throttle, chop off throttle to load the forks, then full throttle with a good tug. Carefullllll | ||
| Grovskopa |
I am very short and fat, hence I can not really change the weight distribution by leaning backwards (if I lean anymore backwards I will have to let go of handle haha) I think there will be no probs getting it up in first gear. And maybe I will dyno it as well to squeeze out the last horses. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Well, here is something that you could do.... It might also make controlling it on the way up a little easier... Try using the passenger pegs(though, try to see if you can balance with your left foot on the forward peg to cover the rear brake), and give it a gentle tug while chopping the throttle... That should get your weight far enough to the rear to allow easy wheelies, at just about any speed.... BE FREAKING CAREFULL if you try it this way.... If you cannot use the rear brake easily, it might hurt.... Try standing on the front pegs first, and leaning back.... Chase | ||
| Eshardball |
I don't know what the differences are in gearing between my S1 and your X1 but mine will lift the front wheel by just wacking the throttle in 1st gear or a hard shift into 2nd. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Euro gearing is 55 tooth on the rear, vice our 65t rear... Chase | ||
| Fullauto |
Same as Australian gearing I think 55 tooth rear (US 61 tooth) and a 29 tooth front (US 27 tooth). About 20 percent higher which would put our fourth gear about where the US top gear would be. I must say I quite like it like that too. 100 mph is only 4000 rpm. | ||
| Grovskopa |
Yeah what Fullauto said.. 100mph/4000RPM It is fun, but it is not really any good since regulated max speed here is 70 mph So basically if I want to ride at legal speeds I can't use fifth gear at all. | ||
| Kilroy |
Might want to try with only a little bit of gas in the tank. That is a lot of forward weight if it is full. | ||
| Grovskopa |
OK getting it up in first gear now fairly easily. I just have to yank bar a bit.. My body's weight distribution is not exactly working with me =I | ||
| Djkaplan |
"Might want to try with only a little bit of gas in the tank. That is a lot of forward weight if it is full." You'll find as you get better at wheelies, a full tank will actually make it easier to stay at the balance point. It's the same reason it's easier to balance a bat from the light end rather than from the heavier hitting end. | ||
| Preybird1 |
ha ha maybe you shouldnt be doing wheelies on a buell you sound like a newbie. ive been riding since i was 5 years old and was popping wheelies on a honda 50cc trail bike when i was 8 or so almost any bike can wheelie if you have skills sorry to sound mean but look at what you posted lol lol lmao. | ||
| Djkaplan |
You really should work on your punctuation and composition skills if you want to be a public scold. | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
Grovskopa - I'm not sure about wheelies, I'm hopeless at them, but I find the U.S. gearing is a lot nicer than the Euro/Australian gearing. It brings 1st and 2nd closer together which makes life easier in slow traffic, I don't use 1st anywhere near as much since I changed both pulleys to U.S. ones. With U.S. pulleys 100km/h = 3000rpm in 5th, which sounds high but I got used to it really quickly. I can generally use 5th from 80 or 90km/h upwards. cheers, chili | ||
| Brokeneck |
Pull back fully on throttle -- release clutch abruptly -- put scars on back -- duhhhhh -- |
