| Author | Message | ||
     Iamike |
Sparky, Bose makes a set of headphones that do that too. They market them for jet passengers to rid the user of the engine drone. It seems that they were about $400. 10db isn't much of a reduction. Cheap earplugs are about 20db & the better foam ones are 30-33db reduction (price-wise the foam ones are cheap). Many years ago I read in Popular Science about auto mufflers working with out-of-phase noise cancelling. | ||
| Ara |
S2no1 - Awwwwww, she's probably a grandmother by now! | ||
| Ara |
Mark In Ireland - What's the name of this teflon product? How are you going to get paste wax to stick to it??? | ||
| Matty |
Anybody else doing the Buell/Pacific Track Time track day at Thunderhill October 10? | ||
| Mark_In_Ireland |
It was advertised as a wheel coating in MCN a few weeks ago. Dirt doesn't stick to it easily and when it does it just needs a quick wipe rather than chemicals and a scrub. Similar stuff to the non stick coating on your frying pan....so I'm told, but comes in multi colours now. Temp range of -20 to +225 degrees C. The process is very similar to xylan. The last coater said his stuff would be ok but when the engine was fired up the coating on the barrels immediately discoloured so it was stripped down again and reblasted! Ferris, The SSSA is from Ram, the same as PPiA newly aquired bike. The wheel is a magnesium Marchenini (sp?), which looks similar to the Buell front as luck would have it!! | ||
| Davegess |
Mark, be aware that the wheels are probably heat treated by Buell. Be careful if you bake them. Dave | ||
| Court |
>>>Mark, be aware that the wheels are probably heat treated by Buell. Be careful if you bake them. I'll go one step further: DO NOT HEAT THE WHEELS. Court | ||
| Mark_In_Ireland |
If you look closely at the front wheel, which was brand new and only had 150 miles on it, rode in the dry from Cork to Dublin before sitting in the HD shop for 4 months awaiting a new cylinder head. The coating had already started to lift off, I don't know how Buell paint their wheels but I would reckon people may have already re-coated their wheels and one of the most common is powdercoating and they get baked at 220 deg C. Why would Buell manufacture wheels any differently from other companies? Any technical evidence on the reasons would be appreciated. | ||
| Choptop |
I'm pretty sure Snail is going to be at the THill trackday. i cant make it, gotta work. | ||
| Court |
>>>Any technical evidence on the reasons would be appreciated. I'd drop a note to either Marchisini or Castalloy and simply ask. Court | ||
| Sharkus |
I'm thinking about wrapping my headers in the white tape I see on some bikes to cover up some of the blueing. Can someone tell me what this tape is, how expensive it is and how long it should last? How about the pros and cons? Thanks all. | ||
| Ebear |
Hey Chris Matty Whats the chance of Leslie arranging a Track Day at Streets of Willow so we all can Play?? I wanted to go but too tough in the middle of the week and the middle of the State. Hello?....Hello....are you out there Leslie???....... | ||
| Pammy |
Shark...have them jet hot coated(HPC) it will last long and look good.It comes in Silver,gloss black, satin black and I believe, gun kote. I am unsure(I don't remember) of the cost. But I do know it's worth the price I paid. | ||
| Davegess |
Mark, I suspect that all the manufacturers heat treat the hollow spoke aluminum wheels. Having them powder coated would than be a bad idea. I don't know how hot they have to get to lose the heat treating but I would be very careful if doing it. Court is right, Marchssini or CastAlloy (Australian) would problably be glad to tell you the details. Dave | ||
| Mikej |
Sharkus, That white tape is muffler wrap, or heat insulation wrap. Sort of a non-asbestos asbestos type of stuff. A good muffler or performance shop should have it. Start here or here for an idea. The JetHot will look better and work better, but the wrap can be done in a weekend at home. Just depends on what you want to end up with and why. If you just want to get rid of the blueing then polish is least expensive and most labor intensive. | ||
| Hootowl |
The only thing I've heard bad about wrapping is that is makes your headers rust, but that's in cars, and Buell headers are stainless, so you shouldn't have a problem. | ||
| Bomber |
Hoot no such thing as stainless, regardless of advertisment . . .. the correct term is "stain resistant" . . . . any iron-bearing metal will rust (form an oxide), given sufficient provocation and the right environment, even your headers that said, I have no first or long-term-second-hand experience with wrapped Buell pipes, so you may be alright with the tape | ||
| Hootowl |
It depends on how they are hardened. T6 is heated to 920 degrees for nine hours, then water quenched, then heated to 350 for ten hours and air cooled. Powder coating involves heating to temperatures near the air cool phase (aging phase) and the specific temperature is dependent on the color of the powder coating. So by powder coating something, you are really giving it another "aging phase". I have no idea what that does to the metal. The stock wheels are powder coated aren't they? What temperature does the non-stick coating you want to use cure at? | ||
| Hootowl |
Yeah, but they're not going to rust through like car headers. When I got my hookers for my truck, there was a card in the box that said wrapping the headers will void my warranty. The surface of the pipe will tarnish, but it's not going to rust out. | ||
| Shazam |
If you go the wrap route, buy the spray coating (sealant) that goes with the wrapping, I had a bunch of the wrap left from a hot rod project that I used on my X1 headers. It looked good (to me) but every time it got wet, it would smell horrible(really, really, REALLY bad) the next three or four times I would take it out. Also of note: the repeated soaking and drying caused the fibers to crack and it started decomposing (shedding). With the sealant I don't think you would have any of these problems. Reported to keep more of the heat in the pipes, increasing exhaust gas velocity and thereby ....whatever, it keeps the heat down on the front of the bike for sure... I would go with the ceramic coatings......that'll be $0.02 | ||
| Aaron |
I have always found header wrap to be more trouble than it's worth. It just doesn't last. Sealing it with the prescribed paint was no help. Eventually it just rots and falls off. YMMV. Swain Tech Coatings used to offer a ceramic version (versus the fiberglass that's available everywhere). I had marginally better success with it. I don't see it offered on their web page anymore though. Their exhaust coatings are interesting, too, I used them on the race car and they worked well. | ||
| Josh |
And it's white to match my frame. Cooool. Thanks Aaron. | ||
| Rick_A |
I've had my header wrapped for about 10 months. I high temp silicone coated both the pipe and the wrap. The wrap hardens and gets brittle with age. It has stayed together, with no obvious sign of decomposition, but it does come apart fairly easily if scraped with a hard/sharp object. | ||
| Scottcolbath |
Hey folks, Does anyone have a link to, or a good writeup on the history of Buell from the beginning to present time? Thanks, Scott | ||
| Captainplanet |
For those of you thinking about jet hot coating, I was just quoted a price of $150, plus shipping to do the header pipe on my firebolt. That covers most of the colors mentioned above. | ||
| Captainplanet |
Scott, Try this link for Buell History. Jeff WWW.DAVEGESS.COM | ||
| Blake |
I like the way the wrap looks. Costs ~$50 for fifty feet. I used ~40 feet, but wrapped with a full 1" overlap instead of the 1/2" recommended. The result is much better insulated than a jet hot coated header. It only took 30 minutes or so to wrap the headers.  No sealant, just wrap.  | ||
| Xgecko |
wrapping my header was one of the biggest wastes of time and money I ever spent the tape cost me $30 and for $40 I could have had my header coated. The tape smelled like it was burning about 1 in 3 days and in less that 6 months it was decomposing. Thankfully I switched exhausts at about this time because it was quite rusted under the tape. I should have listened to Aaron and not wasted my time/money DON'T DO IT check out performance coatings A lot of Ducati folks I've met swear by them...btw a single piece vtwin header is $90 for their most expensive coating | ||
| Pammy |
I have mine jet hot coated(inside and out)and it looks great. The tape is old school. It is industrial looking and that appeals to some, but the HPC is WAY less effort and up keep. No offense, Blake. | ||
| Littledog1 |
I want to agree with Xgecko. DON'T WRAP YOUR HEADERS. I did it on a radically modified IHC Scout...my $300 headers lasted 15 months before they rusted through. I put coated headers on it and they were still good 5 years later when I sold the truck. Coat, don't wrap! Mickey |
