| Author | Message | ||
     Jsimpkins |
I've been trying to cut some sort of deal on a 1125r, but the local dealers are not playing. All I want is a measly $4000.00 trade in for my X1 and I'll pay MSRP minus the BS freight and setup fees they charge. I think this is a fare deal? clipart{justride} j- | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Good luck finding any dealer who will take in an X1- at any price. Buell is poison at most dealerships due to no-resale value. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
I believe it. | ||
| P_squared |
Guess it just depends on where you live in regards to the price a dealer is willing to give you on tradein. At $4k for tradein, they'd have to sell it for ~$5k+ for it to be worth their time & effort. Having said that, I'd probably try to sell the X1 myself & use the $$$ for the 1125R. It's what I did with my X1 & M2L. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
I've been trying for over year to sell it on craigslist.org. I guess I need to just drop the price to rock bottom if I want to move it. j- | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
Id try to sell the X1 yourself you'll make more money. when i got my 1125 i traded my 05 xb12r 8k miles w/pro series exhaust/ecm/intake for only 5 grand and i had to haggle that so doubt many dealers are gonna give you 4 for an X1 IMO | ||
| Xnr |
Jason, You might be better off keeping your X1; I did and I do not regret that choice. Each bike has its pros/cons. I have the '99 X1 and I understand the 2002 X1 is supposed to be the best of the series. I much prefer the X1 for low speed (<50 mph) cruising and/or hot ambients. The 1125R is the choice for competition with the IL4s or any corner carving machines. When you buy the 1125R, be prepared to lose 1/3 of the MSRP (the value of your X1) when you drive away. | ||
| Xnoahx |
How come freight and prep are always BS? The freight is charged to dealers by Buell, the dealer is just passing that cost on to the customer. Prep is a little murkier depending on what the dealer charges but the bikes dont come ready to ride and need to be set up to proper specs. The techs that do that need to get paid so again, passing the cost along to the customer. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Hey, bikes are not an investment in terms of money, they're an investment in living life to its fullest. I'd wager a bet that most folks that see a biker wish they had the balls to be a biker. I know so many people that want a motorcycle but for one lame reason or another they never have the cojones to get one. Usually its compounded by the fact that their wife wears the pants and has their balls in a vice on every level. Feel so sorry for those emasculated sissies. They should just go shoot themselves before they completely change genders. | ||
| Indy_bueller |
You have to pay to play. Jason, if your X1 is paid for, I would suggest selling it yourself or just keeping it. I tried to trade my '03 XB9R for an 1125, and they offered me $3800.00 for it. You will always take it in the shorts when you trade a vehicle in. Always. It's one of the downsides to living in a free market capitalist country. | ||
| Packrat |
According to NADA, the $3800.00 they offered you for your bike was an above average offer......FWIW | ||
| Buellborn |
You can buy 10 brand new ones for $9,300 each here. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 385467.html?1218677277 | ||
| Mutation_racer |
Sure it's a great deal for you. Then the dealer has to try to sell your old tuber for more then 4000.00 just not gonna happen. As for freight and prep being BS they charge us and we spend 3 hrs preping it as well. This is what I will offer here at my dealer which is a real buell dealer and yes we will take your buell on trade but it has to be fair for you and us. 2300. on trade no f&p on my 1125R 675. in buell goods and 250 off the list of a 2008. the ball is in your court. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"You can buy 10 brand new ones for $9,300 each here." I just sent him an email to see if he could cut a deal. j | ||
| Court |
>>> minus the BS freight and setup fees Freight is not BS. Set-up may be negotiable. | ||
| Oddball |
At $9300 your $2700 under the MSRP you said you'd pay if a dealer would give you $4000 on your trade. That difference leaves your trade now valued at $1300 for an equal deal. ($8000 plus tax,tags,title) | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"Sure it's a great deal for you. Then the dealer has to try to sell your old tuber for more then 4000.00 just not gonna happen. " With the economy about to take a huge dump, 09 models coming out, and the invoice coming due, not going into the hole on inventory is a better deal (IMHO)than the collection agency. Lets face it, it's a risk right now for anyone to make a big financial investment and willing buyers should be taken seriously. My deals not the best, but how many guys are lining up to buy them now that winters around the corner? Realistically, I'll get maybe two more months riding, that's it for this year. Time is money, the longer that bike sits on the floor the more money the dealer looses. I can wait, my bike is paid for, and the money is in the bank. j- | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"At $9300 your $2700 under the MSRP you said you'd pay if a dealer would give you $4000 on your trade. That difference leaves your trade now valued at $1300 for an equal deal. ($8000 plus tax,tags,title)" Yeah but how much is it going to cost to ship my bike there and the new one to me in CO? | ||
| Sound_uly |
"With the economy about to take a huge dump, 09 models coming out, and the invoice coming due, not going into the hole on inventory is a better deal (IMHO)than the collection agency. Lets face it, it's a risk right now for anyone to make a big financial investment and willing buyers should be taken seriously." Oh, I see. You're just trying to help these poor dealers out before they all fail. Yeah, right.  Ron (Message edited by sound_uly on August 16, 2008) | ||
| Xl1200r |
Keep in mind that you also get the tax credit on your trade (you only pay sales tax on the difference of the new bike and the old bike). In my case, my dealer offered $6500 for my XB12R. That's equal to me selling it on my own for $7020 (8% sales tax). I also got freight and setup waived. They were willing to give me $7000 for my bike if I took an '08 on the floor, but I wanted a CR. Keep in mind that my dealer tends to give me too much on my trades, lol. My last bike sat on their floor for a year and a half and they lowered the price by $1300. I have no idea what they off'd it for. More on your trade and less off MSRP is better than more off MSRP and less on your trade. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"Oh, I see. You're just trying to help these poor dealers out before they all fail. Yeah, right" Of course not, I'm trying to get the best deal I can. The current economic realities are what they are. 5.6% inflation, jobless claims up, housing down, credit market crumbling, high energy cost, and vehicles sales in the toilet. I'm only willing to assume X amount of risk/debt in an uncertain economic future. So what I have to spend on a purely entertainment expense is what I've out lined above. Take it for whatever you want to, but it is what it is.  | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Packrat: I'm not in any way saying their offer for my bike was low. In fact it was better than I expected. My point was that there is a difference between trade-in value and retail value, and that you will never get retail value when you trade-in. I was very happy with the offer they made me. | ||
| Slypiranna |
ebay... 380055384236...w/warranty | ||
| Buellborn |
Demo's scare me. People like me try them. (Not Good) | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Dealers are really hurting right now- four dealerships closed in a three county area here since January. Most deals my owner approves now are at dealer cost, with average $160-$200 holdback. That means $160-$200 profit on each unit. Subtract expenses and you see the doors won't stay open long. Anyone buying in this environment is doing the dealer and the economy a favor- thanks... just remember the hit the dealer's taking in the process. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"...vor- thanks... just remember the hit the dealer's taking in the process." All I can say is that the factory needs to back down some on the dealer cost, and franchising fees. This would help dealers ride out the rough times. I bought my last bike on the upswing of the economy and paid full price. So I think its my turn to get a good deal for once. j- | ||
| Jlnance |
Freight is not BS. Set-up may be negotiable. I think the crux of peoples objection to these fees is that they can appear out of nowhere. When I buy something from the supermarket, it has a price, and that is the price I pay the store. The store has shipping and setup costs too, but these are already factored into the price. There are taxes too of course, but they are going someplace else. When you buy a vehicle, and you're told a price, and then extra costs show up later, it begins to have the feel of a bait-and-switch game. (Message edited by jlnance on August 18, 2008) | ||
| Dynasport |
I know someone who is pretty well off. He owns a very successful business not related to motorcycles in any way. He lives in an area that is not saturated with HD dealers and thought about opening one up. He did some checking into it and told me that with all the costs and requirements HD put on the the dealers he doubted he could break even. He decided to pass on it. I know some dealers must do really well, but I wonder if some won't go under in the current market. | ||
| Jsimpkins |
I sold my baby...the ole' X1, now I'm in a cash only position to get a 1125r. I almost didn't go through with the sale, we've had lots of ups and downs together. But, I got my asking price of $5500.00 which is way above book and puts me in a better purchasing/bargaining position for a new bike. A tear in my eye as she rode off without me..... j- | ||
| Xl1200r |
Js - great to hear you got such a good price on your X1. | ||
| Krassh |
Now you need to hop on a plane and fly to georgia and ride back on one of them 9,300.00 out the door 1125R's. | ||
| Gtmg |
It really all depends on what they charge for freight and prep and it depends on the company. In my previous life the prep time was credited to us but freight was not. I think probably fair freight between 300 and 500 and prep two hour max at the labor rate say 170. I have seen these add up to over 1200 in some dealers. Just my opinion. |
