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Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 06:56 pm: | 
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OK, I don't have my brain wired right yet.
I was thinking, who the hell is comparing a Honda dirt bike to a 9R. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:18 pm: |
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4. The fact that the new engine has smaller flywheels and thus less gyroscopic action, making it easier to initiate a turn.
This makes sense, but I wonder if that advantage goes away when you spin that engine up to redline. |
Lemonchili_x1
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:33 pm: |
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Just a few thoughts...
1125's are lighter, but is the mass "centralisation"/centre-of-gravity and weight distribution better than an XB as well? This would help with confidence and may help the bike turn quicker. (Combine with flywheel comments as well?)
1125's have cush-drive in engine pulley instead of in the rear wheel so rear unsprung weight is less, so traction is better?
I know the 1125's have a longer wheel base, but is the swing-arm longer than the wheelbase difference? From what I understand a longer swingarm will give better traction too.
Just my 2c. I've never ridden an 1125R, ridden an XB9R once. Most important to me is which gives the biggest grin factor  |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 06:33 am: |
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quote:With all due respect - not true, or Buells would never win.
And with all due respect as well, I don't think you will find a stock XB9 winning anything when running against bikes that weigh what an 1125 weighs and making the power an 1125 makes... unless the rider skill level is *way* different.
But no matter, my point was, that for the street, both bikes make more power and have better handling then is necessary to take excessive risks with both risk of accident and risk of arrest. As does a road king, ridden two up. As does my KLR-250.
And my conclusion from that point is ironically that I agree with your conclusion, just not your question. Change the question to "which bike would be more fun on a tight twisty road", and I think the XB9 (XB9SX please  ) wins hands down.
But that's just my opinion. |
Ceejay
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:05 am: |
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That 1125 made it to where you could do everything before and after the turn way faster. Brake/downshift(thanks slipper), corner entry and the acceleration out was rediculous. I'd think the bikes ability to hold a corner would be pretty close to the same and the lighter wieght might actually make joining a set go more smoothly on an 1125 vs. the 9. I rode them back to back, of course it was on a track and my 9 had 170 touring tires vs. those super sticky things the 1125 had. I could brake later, often well into the turn, as well downshift at the same time without getting the back end to step out on an 1125. If I don't feather the clutch or pump the throttle on downshifts the back end is all over the place on my nine, which at my skill level was a bit hard to do coming from 120+ on my 9. The 1125 was coming from 150 and seemed much easier, because I could do them all at once. The lowest corner speed might be the same but 15 ft. before and after that point are gonna be a lot different |
Deadduck
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:46 am: |
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I'm willing to do my own subjective research.
I am now accepting donation machines so that I can properly test and compare them over the next year or two. I already have a Blast and a XB12R in my possesion, I am in need of all other Buells starting with a Tuber all the way to both models of the 1125. PM me for shipping information to my home where all testing will be done from.
I will also need a grant per-se so that I can ride non-stop and keep my household in order. A pay pal account will be set up to accept dona...um grant moneys.
I cannot be held responsible for possible damages to donated machines as they will be test mules for an independent study. Also needed will be at least two other "testers" so that different viewpoints and riding styles can be compared.
If anyone is interested in filling the other two "research positions", feel free to post your riding resume as well as your ability to write a subjective report here on this thread.
Just remember, I am willing to sacrifice my current job to study and research which Buell is truly the best real world bike. Yes, it will be stressful(deciding which one to ride each day) But I am willing to make that sacrifice for the well being of Buell as well as everyone involved on Badweb.
I look forward to serving my fellow Buellers.
Deadduck |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:38 am: |
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Just a couple of things that have crossed my mind...
the bike is actually heavier when fueled up
Can you back this up? By my calculations, there is a 15lbd difference in weight between the bikes (CR being lighter), and 1.48 gallon difference in fuel capacity (SX holding less.
One gallon of gas weighs between 5.8 and 6.5 lbs. Using 6 lbs, 1.48 gallons weighs 8.88 lbs. The 1125 is still lighter - not by much, but it's surely not heavier.
Also, speaking on people who are stating that the 1125 is a better handling package than the XB, I have to agree. When I rode one, it took no time to feel confident on it, and work through coreners smoothly. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:57 am: |
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Guys 15lbs is nothing, get over it.
I think Bill has the right of it.
Deadduck - you just became my hero - lol
EZ |
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