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Sdb
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought my 2008 XB12X a few weeks ago, and absolutely love it! It had 6200 miles on it when I picked it up, and I've put about another 1500 on it since then. However... I have been getting some grief from it lately.

Recently, as I was trying to start the bike(after a normal startup light sequence), instead of cranking, there was a "tick" sound, then silence. The only light that remained on was the high beam indicator, even with the low beam on.

When I turned the key switch off, the check engine, oil, and fuel lights illuminated. When I turned it on, it was back to high beam indicator only. The bike would not start.

I unplugged the battery, and eventually, the bike restarted. This happened a couple of times. Then, today it actually happened while I was riding it. I had to pull off the interstate, lift the seat, and manually reset it as usual.

Has anyone had this happen? What does it mean? What should I do? Is this too many questions? Am I asking enough questions?

The one good thing here is that it's still under warranty. I'll probably take it to a dealer next week. In the meantime, I would like to set it straight on my own if possible. Please help!
Thanks,
Rob

(Message edited by sdb on July 10, 2008)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a bad battery cable contact, may just need a good cleaning / tightening at the connectors or a ground.

Make sure your ECM wire bundle is not getting cut somewhere on a battery terminal either. I don't think it is a problem on your bike, but the 9s bikes have had issues with it.
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Sdb
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took it to the local dealer, Harley Davidson of Tampa, they found out that the previous owner (who sold it after only 6,000 miles) had the same issue. Since then, Buell has upgraded the ECM, due to a known issue that caused this in other bikes. I scoured the web for other instances of this, and only found one other. Hopefully, this will do the trick once and for all. We will know after delivery of the new ECM early next week. I'll post the results of my test ride here.
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Nostawdarb
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had the exact same problem. I had to disconnect the battery and cycle the key on and off to get the high beam to reset and the bike to start.
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Sdb
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update: The dealer had my bike for two weeks, and replaced the ECM. They said it would fix the problem... It didn't.

This bike is very dangerous to ride. I can be cruising along with the flow of traffic, when the engine suddenly cuts out. You never know when it's going to happen, but it does. If the dealer can't fix it, then who can? This bike is under warranty, but a lot of good that does me if It can't be fixed.

Somebody please tell me that it wasn't a mistake to buy this bike! When it's working, it's the sweetest machine I have ever ridden on the street. Then it suddenly turns evil on me.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look for possible rub points on the bundle of wires going to the ECM. I routed my cable wrong, and it was rubbing on a battery terminal, and cut through.

You could not see the nick with anything short of near microscopic inspections, but it was there.

Its a great bike with a problem. Keep working to find the problem. I'm going through the same thing with a KLR-250 now (except it is even worse... being a 23 year old dirtbike, everything I touch needs to be fixed for reasons unrelated to the core overheating problem I am chasing down).
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Bombardier
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep, did you get the core cleaned?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not professionally, but manually cleaned them, and they look pretty good.

I pulled the oil pump, it was chewed up, I am hoping that was the source of the problem, but who knows. It's a hobby :/
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Bombardier
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The inside of the core will get a calcium build-up on the inside if left sitting for a while.

This will need to be removed sonically or the core dissassembled.

The build-up reduces both the flow and transfer of heat making the core less effective.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll watch for a place, we called around a few local places and there was not anything easy to find to get them cleaned. I have a spare set, so I will keep my eyes open.

And now I will stop hijacking your thread, I have a "klr 250 trials and tribulations" tangent on the quick board already : )
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