| Author | Message | ||
     Stewadi |
Hi all, Well I picked up my new 08 1125R (May 08 build) on Thursday. Spent Friday morning going through setting up the suspension, checking the coolant etc. I put on the Tidy Tail and some Pazzo long levers in the Repsol Navy color (Pretty close match to the frame color btw) and the Buell noid. When the demo truck was here locally I pretty much rode the bike steady for two days so I kinda knew what to expect. Took it easy for first few mies to break in the brakes and tires. After that I had a little fun. Damn you gotta love that power. Twisties...oh hell yeah!!! I was yelling in my helmet after hitting some tight corners and blowing right through. I had more fun on this bike in the first few days than I had with my V-rod for three years. So after putting 200 miles on, I changed the oil. Not too bad. I used everybody's suggestions here and it was pretty painless. Ok...so my questions are: When in gear at about 3500 rpm and below it sounds like a bag of rocks is in my engine. My solution was keep it above 3500 rpm. Is this normal? AFV 's are 100,100 Heat. The bike does get hot but nothing to bad. Is the fan suppose to be on all the time? The CT range is anywhere from 170's to a little over 200. The 200's have been sitting at lights Temp gauge. The ambient temp gauge will reflect over 100 sometimes. This is western Washington. Its maybe in the 70's or 80's. How accurate is the gauge? I just wanted to say thanks to everybody and all the information that is available here. It really helps doing this with knowledge up front. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Congrats on the buy. I can't answer for most of your questions, but I can tell you that the amient temp guage is likely not accurate in direct sunlight without the bike moving. The gauge on my car has read as high as 120*F. have you seen these high temps with the bike in motion? | ||
| Eagle1 |
First, congrats on the purchase! The sounds that you're hearing below 3,500 is normal. After your break-in period it will minimize quite a bit (at least mine did) You're right as far as not letting it get below 3,500, at least during the break-in. Be very mindful of what the bike sounds like. If it sounds rough, stop what you're doing. It only gets better... As far as the fan, I believe it kicks on at 171 degrees. It's hard to be riding around and not get the CT UNDER that, unless it's 60 degrees out. The ambiant temp is right at the mouth of the ram-air intake. If you're going slow, the heat from the engine will rise and soak into those plastics, giving you a false reading. I find that if I'm going 50mph+ it'll give an accurate reading. Hope this help, and enjoy that bike! | ||
| Xb9 |
(Message edited by xb9 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Anonymous |
No, if the engines had lean knock they would take out the pistons. The box of rocks is the double cush drive system resonating under light load which makes the straight cut gears clatter. It's not a problem, it's similar to the Ducati "Loud clutches save lives" clatter. | ||
| Xb9 |
(Message edited by xb9 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Chameleon |
I own one of each and so I can state that from experience that the fact is the 1125R likes higher RPMs than the V-Rod. Stewadi, where did you buy your bike from? Destination in Fife or Puyallup? I bought all 3 of my bikes from Puyallup. Great folks. BTW, I'm in T-town, too... Hilltop to be exact. Glad to see another 1125R owner near by. As soon as I get mine back we need to hit some twisties together! Ducati "Loud clutches save lives" clatter. Hahahahaha!!! That's great!  | ||
| Stewadi |
Ok, so noise below 3500 is normal. With the location of the temp gauge being at the front of the Ram intake, it makes sense for the reading to be a little high when in stop and go traffic. And the fan, yeah the CT temps are usually 170' and above. Chameleon, Bought the bike from Downtown in Tukwila. I read your thread over at pnwriders about the accident. OUCH!! | ||
| Chameleon |
Worst part is being without my beloved... Have almost 11,000 miles on it. Bought it Jan 15th and it's been in the shop for a bit over 1 month total until the accident, about half of which was maintenance. Are you registered on PNWRiders? If so, send me a friend request. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Dave, it may be running lean, but the clatter that I hear is the transmission/driveline like Anony said. Loretta can stir up a heck of a racket. It's definitely easier to take when the bike is running smooth. More like music than noise. I like drums. Ever since Homecoming, she's been running better than ever. I think the Elves put some magic dust on her in the parking lot. Z | ||
| Blake |
"The sounds that you're hearing below 3,500 (bag -o- rocks) is lean mixture engine knock." Amazing how you can diagnose a bike thousands of miles away without ever having seen or heard it run. I'd sure be interested to hear about your own 3X diagnoses though. Please share.  | ||
| Dentguy |
No, if the engines had lean knock they would take out the pistons. The box of rocks is the double cush drive system resonating under light load which makes the straight cut gears clatter. It's not a problem, it's similar to the Ducati "Loud clutches save lives" clatter. Amazing how Anonymous can diagnose it also without being there. (Message edited by dentguy on July 28, 2008) | ||
| Zac4mac |
Dave, XB9, has been playing with the fuel maps; I have no doubt the 11s are running lean. If our Anony is from the Factory, he undoubtedly has access to a much larger sample group and has a better chance, statistically, of being right... I know what I hear with my sample group of one, Loretta. Z | ||
| Dentguy |
If our Anony is from the Factory, he undoubtedly has access to a much larger sample group and has a better chance, statistically, of being right... Agreed, but if he is from the factory he should suggest that it go to a dealer to get checked out and make sure there isn't a problem instead of guessing without seeing it in person. | ||
| Xb9 |
(Message edited by xb9 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Xnr |
Okay, Xb9, you got my interest. I would have gone with Zac on this one based on what I "feel" coming from the bike. What connections do you have that you are playing with maps? You don't have to answer that. What I am really after is some confidence that allowing the dealership to re-map my bike will be beneficial. There have been so many mixed stories that I am still running the stock '07 map and keeping above 3500RPM. Will the '09 flash improve my low end without taking away the top end? | ||
| Xb9 |
(Message edited by xb9 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Ccryder |
Oh nooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Now what do I do?????? I guess I lost all my rocks in the box!!!! Don't know exactly when it happened but it's been awhile. Guess I had a hole in my box or, or....... maybe somebody stole them!!!!!!! Ok, Ok, all kidding aside, mine doesn't make that sound, even at low rpm's and higher gears. The most I hear is the intake drone or huffing when it's trying to make some gain on the torque curve. I find it fun to make a tight turn onto a street and power out from about 2,500-3,000 rpm. From there on up she just FLIES!!!!!!!!! Just my $0.05. Later All. | ||
| Brad1445 |
I have been left out in the middle of nowhere before when a bike failed so I see no humor in making fun of other peoples concerns about the state of their machine. Rusty Mufflers maybe you could say big whoop , but anything that can possibly effect performance means its a saftey issue. Some people just buy their bikes to ride, not as an ongoing project. I think reasonable to question a characteristic that one is not familiar with. | ||
| Chameleon |
As much as I don't want to admit it, I agree with Brad. I think it would be good to get it checked out. | ||
| Chevycummins |
Haven't found my box o rocks yet on my bike, but I know there in there because I can hear them. Dealer said It was normal, but then they say its normal for all the problems I have had. I'm going with Xb9 on this one. The key to a quiet and smooth running engine is in the fuel/spark engine maps on this bike. There is a lot more potential in this engine and it will take some time to get it all sorted out. | ||
| Jpfive |
This is my second Rotax. Both have been noisy motors - a lot of clatter. The motor in my Aprilia would make a noise sometimes when shutting down that would make you think it had seized. Other owners reported the same, but yet the engines had a reputation for being bullet proof. Jack | ||
| Ccryder |
Brad: Did you ever get that sunset ride in that we talked about? Time to relax. It is time, especially in 1st person experience threads like this, that people with these experiences speak up. I'm sure that some 25r do exhibit the box of rocks sounds. Mine does not. Jpfive: Mine does almost sound like it seizes when it stops, especially in the morning below 70deg. First hit of the starter results in about 3-7 seconds of running and then suddenly stops. That's when it kinda sounds like something is seizing (but it is not). Another hit of the starter results in a start that continues w/o hesitation. With each passing mile my 25r gets stronger and pulls stronger from lower rpms. Just seat-of-the-pants observations of drive-ability after 8700 miles in 4 months. Time4Work | ||
| Teach |
In reference to XB9's posts, I am one of the "samples" and he is totally accurate in his description of how my "sample" bike performed after "chatting" with him. Thanks XB9!  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
In reference to XB9's posts, I am one of the "samples" and he is totally accurate in his description of how my "sample" bike performed after "chatting" with him. Thanks XB9! I'll have to hook up with you guys when I get an 09. |
