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Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 01:02 pm: |
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So: Targeted fuel injectors (?) Updated spark and fuel maps (to be made avail for 08) Relocated 02 sensors upgraded charging system lower gearing on the CR (8%) So which of these changes would be good for an 08 and how to we make them? I'm mostly interested in the lower gearing. At Blackhawk, GIR and Hallet I could sure use 8% lower RPMs. |
Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 01:09 pm: |
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The plactic piece added to the 08s to keep the heat off the right foot is gone also. Interesting. I wonder what they did to change the airflow. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 01:28 pm: |
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Lower gearing means 8% higher rpms. I curious what a "targeted" injector is as well. |
01xjbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 01:57 pm: |
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I'm curious of one thing, will they be releasing the information about HOW they made the new bikes run cooler? As my frame and right foot got almost unbearably warm at the 2-day trackday I did last week |
Cataract2
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 02:18 pm: |
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I want that fuel map. |
Spectrum
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 02:55 pm: |
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09 1125R specs shows gas mileage of Urban 39 and Highway 53. |
Thurstonbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 03:09 pm: |
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Thats either really .... or... really..... |
Cataract2
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 03:14 pm: |
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Gas millage might be that way from the new fuel map. I WANT IT!!!!! |
Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 03:14 pm: |
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ah, typos. higher RPMs so I don't have to downshift. I wonder what a targeted injector is. One designed for the 1125 instead of off-the-shelf? or is "targeted" an injector design term? 01xjbuell, where were you? Hallett Raceway in Ok was 97deg Sat/Sun. |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 03:26 pm: |
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"Targeted" should mean that the injector spray has been adjusted to provide optimum distribution and combustion of fuel for the 1125's combustion chamber. This was probably done by using new injectors, possible designed specifically for the Helicon motor. |
Bobup
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 03:50 pm: |
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I'ld bet that the 1125R pics are just re-done pics of the '08 hence the missing right-side air/heat deflector and the not black forks |
Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 04:25 pm: |
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Hmm the CR has more ground clearance Ground Clearance (5) 4.50 in. 5.43 in. and a shorter wheelbase Wheelbase (5) 54.6 in. 54.5 in. The dimmensions are different, but the weights are the same. Trans gears are the same but final drive is 2.815:1 on the CR vs 2.593:1. Hmmm I wonder how I can adapt the speedo for the difference... Some photos show the heat piece on the right and black forks, the rest show silver forks and no heat piece. I guess the truth will rise eventually. |
Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 04:27 pm: |
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And there is now a gear indicator? |
Xnoahx
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 05:32 pm: |
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YUP! |
D_buckle
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 05:42 pm: |
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i should have waited and bought an 09 guess ill have to wait till next year, when my warantee is over ill trade the 08 in on a new one! |
Bueller_bjorn
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 05:56 pm: |
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I just want that fuel map!! maybe that helps our MPG, and im hoping we can turn our 08s into an 09 engine wise without costing much. now i really wish i waited till 09 i thought 09 would just be new colors but i bet the 08s will be the more rare due to the blue frame not like our resales are good anyway |
Xb9
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:17 pm: |
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"Targeted types of fuel injectors inject fuel into the vehicle engine in a direction, or directions, that are other than along the fuel injector axial centerline. A split stream fuel injector is an example of a targeted fuel injector. When a targeted fuel injector is used in an engine, the fuel injector has to have a particular angular or circumferential orientation about its centerline so that the direction(s) of fuel injection will be properly targeted. Improperly targeted fuel injectors may derogate engine performance and/or compliance with applicable vehicle emission requirements. Proper targeting of a fuel injector typically requires a proper axial positioning of the fuel injector. This is typically achieved by positioning the fuel injector nozzle, which contains one or more metering orifices from which fuel is injected into an engine, in a fixed geometric relation to a socket receptacle of the engine intake system into which the nozzle is inserted in a sealed manner. When a fuel rail containing fuel injectors that have been properly circumferentially located in respective outlet cups of the fuel rail is assembled to an engine that has injector-receiving socket receptacles, the act of inserting the nozzles into properly sealed relationship with the socket receptacles can complete proper targeting of the fuel injectors. The achievement of the correct circumferential location of the fuel injector to the fuel rail outlet cup is referred to as "clocking" the fuel injector." http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7128055/descript ion.html |
Zack3g
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:28 pm: |
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i hope these mods can be retrofitted to the 08. sounds like some good stuff |
Josh_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:29 pm: |
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So can we simply stick an 09 injector in an 08 with the updated map? Where's the 09 parts manual ... |
Gtmg
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:30 pm: |
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where were the changes listed??? |
Dalton_gang
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:38 pm: |
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I`m interested in the steeper gearing too. I would be happy to sacrifice a few MPH for some more torque |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:43 pm: |
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Gear indicator....shows Buell is listening to us....great addition. I would gladly give up the theft system or the meaningless ambient temp. gauge for the gear indicator. (Message edited by fresnobuell on July 22, 2008) |
Krassh
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:49 pm: |
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Since the gearing is advertised as final drive mod I would assume it is just different tooth sprockets and a different belt. Right? |
No_rice
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:50 pm: |
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wonder if the 02 sensors got moved so they got a better reading? i am definatly interested in the gearing, injectors/map/exhaust if it fixes the rough running problems. although if it actually fixes the problem i would hope maybe a few of the changes buell would adapt over to our 08's instead of me covering the WHOLE bill. |
Teddagreek
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:57 pm: |
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Not mentioned on buell R & Cr now have bobbins now.. Nice...
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Bueller_bjorn
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 07:05 pm: |
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i hope they offer us 08's a discounted retro fit for being the Buell's ginny pigs |
Brad1445
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 07:48 pm: |
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Cringblast
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 07:57 pm: |
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outstanding !!! |
Rainman1ne
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 07:57 pm: |
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So much for painting my bike white, did it to be different. Looks like silver or blue now. |
Krassh
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 07:58 pm: |
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Shhh! Those are next years colors. |