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Morpheus78
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my parts in today and slapped it all back together. When I went to adjust my chain tension, I got no resistance again. After removing the lock nut, I did. This leads me to believe that part of the tensioner bolt has been worn away. Please tell me if something is missing. I have posted pics. Can I just use a longer bolt from a hardware store to replace this one? Thanx

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/Dhaldenwang /103_0476.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l229/Dhaldenwang /103_0478.jpg
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Morpheus78
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also...My clutch is not working now. Is this because there is no oil in the case? When i pull on the clutch handle...I cannot get the mechanism on the clutch to move... its like its stuck or something. I have tried to adjust it to no avail. Any advice? Thanx
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the cable ball ramp on correctly?
EZ
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Morpheus78
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes it is.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for peace of mind order another bolt - or give us you bolt length to tell if its worn - should be a speck in the parts manual - not pulling mine out just now - lol -
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like your tensioner shoe is toast. There isnt any way the bolt could wear down (unless something was very, very wrong). Bolt looks okay, it would have some very rough wear if it wore down.

Also, it does sound like the ball & ramp assembly is installed incorrectly or is missing a part. Follow the adjustment procedure in the manual again (although a moot point now if your shoe is toast).
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Morpheus78
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, this is a new shoe I am trying to install. My shoe WAS toast LOL...im repairing. The problem is the bolt and clutch right now
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are two holes in the shoe - perhaps the spring is in the wrong one?
EZ
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Morpheus78
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The entire length of the bolt, including head and threads is 2.25"
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice catch EZ! Yeah it sounds as if the shoe is installed incorrectly or they gave you the wrong shoe. I can measure a bolt tomorrow.
There is the unlikely possibility your primary chain is overstretched. I highly doubt it.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. 2.25". Your bolt is normal.

One does wonder if the prior owner took the ill fated advice of backing the bolt out and letting the tensioner do all the work! Or maybe they followed the manual, with a little extra torque.
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Morpheus78
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After looking at the pics that Themagster put up of the primary...im positive that I installed the shoe spring wrong. I didnt put it on the shaft, I installed it on the side. Wow...im glad I caught that one. I still dont think that this would make the bolt bottom out. I might be going with Gearheaderiko on this that the chain might be over stretched from all the abuse it has taken. After I install the shoe and spring the right way, Ill check to see if it made a
difference. If not...i guess my chain needs to be replaced too. Wow...this is a real nightmare. I hope I can get my clutch working too.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will work out - don't sweat it - of course a little tree action never hurt either;0)
EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL! Never underestimate the power of the tree!
Not a real nightmare, just a learning experience. One you'll be able to pass on.
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Morpheus78
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL!!

Well...I got it all up and running with your help guys. Took me a while to get the clutch just right, but now its perfect. And that synthetic 20w-50 really DOES make a huge difference with the clutch and shifting. Smooth as butter now! Thank you for all your help guys!!
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WooHoo!
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