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Genoa
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/24445979.html

No news on the identity of the driver.

Stay safe everyone, save racing for the track and drinking for the bar.

R.I.P.
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Deks69
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to sound cold, but this was his fault, and could have been avoided. It's to bad however. At least he wasnt taken out by a friggen car that didnt see them, like some very close people I know. When it's your fault it's one thing, but if it's that driver that decides to pull out instead of look is a whole different story.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ugh. Hope it was no one here, and my condolences to the survivors regardless.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hit a sign hard enough to amputate his arm, the bike came to rest 2 blocks further down the street, and the police *suspect* speed was a factor?

I feel for everyone involved...but as mentioned above, this was a clearcut case of bad judgement. My condolences to the family of the driver, and my sincere hope that the passenger pulls through - for her sake, and for the sake of the drivers family.
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Hitman44139
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"suspect speed is a factor" This i sad for the sport bike community an I send my condolence to the family also.

However ......
There is a time and place with a huge responsibility for the bikes we ride. Maybe I'm old and lack the sense of adventure our youth today have ..... Nahhh. Ratbuell said it best "BAD JUDGMENT" Very sad ......
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Black_snowman
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My condolences as well.

Doing dumb things can be very tempting. I was going to take my track school in September but moved it up to the end of this month because I was getting antsy and starting to do things I knew were bad judgment. Now that I know I will have a chance to let loose on the track I'm riding much more conservatively.

Judgment is at least partially a learned skill, if not entirely and I'm thankful that I picked up enough judgment to keep me alive and to recognize when it's failing me.

Common sense is the rarest of abilities. It's almost a super-power.
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Eddie
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Condolences to the Family and Friends

We have all cranked on it and thought wow that was stupid. We own a wonderful motorcycle that is very powerful. Hopefully I will think before I yank on the throttle next time.

My Helmet off and head held low in a moment of silence and respect for one of our fellow riders.

I wonder if there is Buells in Heaven?
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Deks69
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wish bad judgement wasn't sometimes punishable by death. Condolences to his family and everyone who's crossed his path. Hopefully his girlfriend makes it.
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Mainstreamer
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Sad, condolences to his friends and family.

Darwinism strikes again.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've done some really stupid things on a motorcycle, and in cars, and I'm lucky (or blessed) to have not ended up in the same shape.

Godspeed....
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Vincent
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My condolences as well. We have all done stupid things but i believe it is how and where we decide to do them that makes a difference. Gents, if you are going to push the limit, please just make sure when it decides to push back you are on forgiving grounds. I'm sure he passed with a smile on his face from this wonderful machine. God is a biker so i'm sure Buells are in heaven. Godspeed fellow Buelligan.
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Boudrx79
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deepest Regards to the Family&Friends and All to who knew him. I pray the passenger recovers. This will resinate with me everytime I ride and think about ''threading the needle'' between traffic or anything else careless, I have a close family, daughter, nephew and nieces that I would leave behind b/c of my carelessness. Very eye opening and heart tugging news.

Darwin and Gravity are always at work.
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Bigeasy
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RIP brother
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Brad1445
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Serious Note; This sux for the family. I lost my brother in a car accident, the unexpected loss is difficulty especially for the parents.

Styling Note: The Bike photographs very well at that angle. Notice its almost one single line from scoop to fairing to tail.

Personal Note: I use humor as a means of relive. I have to make jokes or life gets to serious. In this case the only wrong is likely the deceased fault but we can all learn from his passing.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RIP

bad move
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Styling Note: The Bike photographs very well at that angle. Notice its almost one single line from scoop to fairing to tail.

As they say, looks fast standing still don't it?

This news has to be disheartning to anyone at the factory. You know there's got to be more than one person there who had pondered how long it would take for someone to get killed on the new bike. And for it to happen right in Wisconsin to boot.
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Misterrich
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might be a good time for me to rethink some of the stupid moves i've done on my bike. I have a 3 year old to take care of.
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Smoke
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sad to hear. my condolences and best wishes for the passenger's recovery.
tim
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Xb984r
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curious,if this guy was on a bike other than a Buell,most on here would be talking about Darwin and squids,why is it this guy is any different?
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68eb429
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no other reason than you have the associated common the bike....with that we would say something and feel the sorrow but then we would move on to the next corner. human nature
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Hwyranger
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

few factors to consider in this:

1) Wet roadway -
2) Obvious high speeds
3) Possibility/ probability alcohol was involved
4) High performance motorcycle ridden by young rider.

This is the recipe for disaster. In all the motorcycle involved crashes I have investigated, or assisted in investigating, only 2 were not the motorcycle rider's fault. (one of which, SHOULD have been avoided by the rider if he was riding smart).

My sincere condolences go out to the family of the rider.

We all joke about pushing the limit on our bikes. I am not completely innocent when it comes to mine. Lets try to keep out balls in our pockets and save it for the track to really push the limits. In the meantime, these bikes are fun as hell to ride even when we are behaving.

Stay safe guys, let's move on and have fun.
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Carmell
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto that Tom, well said.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Squid for sure...jsut cause he rides the 1125r doesn't make him bit different...matter of fact you can probably count on more squids to join the ranks as now Buell offers a bike that satisfies the power demand.

This one is 100% rider error...the ones that freak me out are the unavoidable ones that can happen to any of us at any time.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wish bad judgement wasn't sometimes punishable by death.

Anyone that doesn't understand that it IS punishable by death shouldn't be any where near a motorcycle. It's a risk that we all understand everytime we roll out of the garage.
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate to say this, but has anybody considered that it could have been a result of the 5th gear lockup ?
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Spectrum
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Link to the story has been updated as of today with names of the victims.

My heart goes out to their friends and families.
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Odinbueller
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would take a serious amount of speed and hard riding to be the 5th gear issue, and that scene appeared to me to be quite residential. I seriously doubt that was the cause, especially with a passenger in tow.

I hope the passenger makes a full recovery, and my deepest sympathies to the family & friends of the rider.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I hate to say this, but has anybody considered that it could have been a result of the 5th gear lockup ?

Yes. It was not.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. It was not.

Details please?
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure he passed with a smile on his face from this wonderful machine.

Nope... no freaking way.

I've been on the edge of control and beyond in motorcycles and aircraft and at NO TIME was I ever thinking, "Hey, this is so cool, I'm gonna get killed doing something I really love."

Nice sentiment but I have to say it's bullsh!t. I hate to see the myth of being killed "doing something you loved" being perpetuated.

ME? I'd rather die in bed.
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