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Sruzhyo
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 03:57 pm: |
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Hey guys, please help me out. I need new tires mounted, and Pike's Peak HD wants $94.99 JUST to mount a rear tire!! The other local shops won't touch the Buell unless I pull off the wheels myself and I don't have any of my tools up here... Is there a local shop you guys know of, or some place where I can get this done that it's not going to cost me a bill JUST to mount? Help! Steve |
Cataract2
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 05:00 pm: |
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Dude, give me a call. I got the stuff to do the work to get your wheels off. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 05:52 pm: |
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that is ridiculous...in my experience Buells are easier to mount/dismount than the Japanese bikes...however the large sprocket and rotor can make for a bit harder tire change. It is unfamiliarity with Buells that causes the extra expense. |
Vincent
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 06:35 pm: |
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cost me 40 bucks at the local shop, 45 minute turn around. |
Carmell
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 06:37 pm: |
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Same thing here. Changed out the rear tire, 95 bucks at the dealer. |
Sruzhyo
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:42 pm: |
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Hey Vincent, where is the local shop? Probably not CO springs huh? Cataract@ I'll give you a call tomorrow to setup a time if you're free at all. That would be awesome |
Brad1445
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:59 pm: |
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That is bad news Sruzhyo . Is there only the one HD dealer down there? I hope they get some flack from others for that obscene charge. Buell should put a cap on it maybe? They are franchised and it would help protect the brand. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:23 am: |
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NEVER have a Harley dealer change your tires. They charge their normal insane labor rate with big time minimums. We'll see how long they get away with it with the Domestic Harley market tapering off. Free ride may be over soon. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:24 am: |
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Find a local independent repair shop. Wheel is easy to pull off. On the front you just have to rotate the fork leg that has the caliper on it so the rotor will come out if it. |
Patrickmitchell
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:55 am: |
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Most track day organizations will change a tire for $20.00. Walk away from this place. |
Helicon
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:52 am: |
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Colorado Springs Harley / Pikes Peak Harley is the same place that is charging $2,000 over MSRP for the 1125R and do not care about their customers. I would not let them touch your bike, THEY DON'T DESERVE YOUR BUSINESS! -rant over- |
Jdugger
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:54 am: |
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A lot of places are scared of that whole belt assembly, but once you know the trick, it's really easy. Pull the back caliper using the two mount bolts. On the underside of the swing arm you will see a pinch bolt -- loosen that and that will slack the belt and then the axle comes out easily. Someone posted up the procedure here with torque specs. I just printed that out and gave it to my local guy and it's all good. He swapps an 1125 tire as fast as any other bike. I pay $90 in the downtown Dallas area to ride the bike in and have *both* front and back tires swapped. Harly dealer is about $130 - $150 for the same service. yea, they are more expensive. Just find a local guy you like and give him the procedure. It's just as easy on the 1125 (or even easier) than any other bike, it just looks complicated at first. |
Fireboltwillie
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:18 am: |
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i took my wheels off and took them and new tires to red hill motorcycle werx up in lyons. they are used to working on belt drives. they charged time/material to swap my customer supplied rubber. $48. if you don't mind riding up here, you could probably get on their schedule and have it done in a day. |
Buellishxx
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:06 pm: |
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Other solution is to buy your own tire mounting set up such as no-mar. Pays for itself in a couple of changeovers, and if you've got a couple o buddies to chip in you can keep the costs right down, and also have the convenience of doing it on your schedule not some else's. If there is a local race club in your area you can probably buy tires from the on track supplier for considerably less than what any shop charges for them as well. If you can take them the wheels the install is generally $10-$20 / wheel. |
Rubberdown
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:27 pm: |
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+1 I have a no-mar, but any tool will work. Easy to do changes. You can save a lot buying in bulk for sure! |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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Take the wheel off the bike your self and walk it in to a place. You should be able to find somebody that will mount them and dispose of the old tire for under $40 per wheel. Usually cheaper if you buy the new tire from them. Bring it to my garage, I'll do it for $30. But I scratch rims |
Doerman
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:19 pm: |
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Is this what you were looking for? Rear wheel removal 1) Get the rear wheel off the ground using a stand or jack or something like that (I use a rear wheel stand (Pitbull). 2) Rotate the rear wheel to align the slots in the disk with the two caliper bolts and 3) Remove the two caliper bolts (allen bolts) and rotate the caliper up and back to move it out of the way 4) Loosen the pinchbolt on the underside of the left side swingarm (left as when seated on the bike) 5) Remove axle using the tool in the tool pouch> Important: It is a left handed thread! 6) Remove upper and lower belt guard (Torx fasteners) 7) When the belt gets slack carefully move it of the pulley while rotating the wheel 8) Fully remove the axle bolt and guide the wheel to the ground 9) Remove the two caliper bolts (allen bolts) and rotate the caliper up and back to move it out of the way. 10) Pull the wheel out towards the back And that's it! Putting the wheel back on is the reverse of the dismount, but keep a couple things in mind: a) When putting the axle bolt back on: Rear axle is first tightened to 27 ft-lbs then backed out 720 degrees and re-tightened to 48-52 ft-lbs. Rear pinch bolts are tightened to 40-45 ft-lbs. Make sure you apply anti-seize on the axle before putting it back on. Avoid getting the anti-seize on the swingarm paint. It can be a pita to clean up! b) The caliper bolt torque spec is 18-20ft-lbs |
Jlnance
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:52 pm: |
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He lives in Florida, and is visiting Colorado. Which makes taking the tire off himself problematic. |
Sruzhyo
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:03 pm: |
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I appreciate all the help guys. Firebolt Willie, do you know how much they'd charge to pull the wheels off too? Wondering if it's worth the trip or if me and Cataract can pull them off here and get them changed here in town. Thanks again! |
Fireboltwillie
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:38 pm: |
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they would do it hourly. best bet is to call them and check. i don't have the number, but you can look up the website. redhillmotorcyclewerx.com |
Rubberdown
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:46 pm: |
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If I'm traveling and need a tire change I just pay it and don't let it spoil my trip. |
Jumpinjewels
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 04:53 pm: |
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We, well, my hubby actually, does all of our tire changes. Just put on a new set of Continental Road Attack's on both of our bikes in prep for our trip this upcoming week. |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 05:50 pm: |
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On the front you just have to rotate the fork leg that has the caliper on it so the rotor will come out if it. Not with the 8 piston ZTL2 caliper I wouldn't do that. With the ZTL1, sure. But you still run the risk of scratching your wheel in the process. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 06:28 pm: |
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Don't you just unbolt the front caliper and zip tie it out of the way...just like the rear caliper? At least on the ZTL1 we did this...the ZTL2 is like 3 times the size and I haven't changed the front yet. |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 07:04 pm: |
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You can just twist the front for tube to allow the wheel to be removed without removing the caliper on an XB. You can not(by what I am told by Dan Bilansky), do it with the ZTL2 |
Spectrum
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:08 pm: |
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You can just twist the front for tube to allow the wheel to be removed without removing the caliper on an XB. You can not(by what I am told by Dan Bilansky), do it with the ZTL2 Well tell Dan to come to my house, cause that's exactly what I did on my last change. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 11:35 am: |
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Colorado Springs Harley / Pikes Peak Harley is the same place that is charging $2,000 over MSRP for the 1125R and do not care about their customers. I would not let them touch your bike, THEY DON'T DESERVE YOUR BUSINESS! +1 |
Sruzhyo
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:19 pm: |
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Screw Pike's Peak HD. Went down to Apex Motorsports to buy the tires...and hope against hope, asked the service dpt if they could mount the tires. No Dice. As I'm walking out, I mumble I would do it myself but my tools are at home in FL. The guy stops me, and says what? You're not from here? I say no. He says hold on, let me check with the service manager...Service manager looks up, looks at me (in riding gear), says, "give it to CJ." $116 later they're installed, both front and rear!!! (as opposed to 94.99/tire at HD). Those guys at Apex are awesome!!! |
Budo
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:43 am: |
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That Sir is customer service and that is how it is supposed to happen. Props to Apex. |
Chrisrogers3
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 01:26 pm: |
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Colorado Springs Harley / Pikes Peak Harley is the same place that is charging $2,000 over MSRP for the 1125R and do not care about their customers. I would not let them touch your bike, THEY DON'T DESERVE YOUR BUSINESS! Wow-There must have been quite a bit that has changed since the last I was out in the Springs (2 years ago now). They used to be pretty Buell friendly. I do know when I was living in the Springs, Apex would always sell me tires but vowed never to change them, so at least you got lucky there. On a depressing note, I referred a friend to Pikes Peak HD because he was interested in a Uly. Hopefully he hasn't been there yet! |