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Xb9
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please post your experiences and drivability comments here regarding this new calibration.
All I have heard is that the timing maps have been revised, along with less fuel pump cycling after shut down.
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Big_dog
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've ridden mine about 500 miles since the re-map. Prior to, on hard acceleration I had stumbling at 5K RPM, sometimes at the wrong time like passing a car in 2 lane traffic. Since smooth and hard pulling acceleration all the way up. The low RPM surging is still there. I'm considering the solenoid eliminator I've been reading on this forum.
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Xb9
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big Dog, Did you get the calibration within the last two days? That's how long the most recent calibration has been available.
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Hitman44139
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just spoke with S.E. Harley Buell. They are checking for it now (I hope) My bike is in for 620 and getting recall done. I'll let you all know ........ If ........
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Big_dog
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I got it a couple weeks ago. I originally took it in for the same problem, just a couple weeks after delivery, and they checked the factory settings and said it was good. But, it wasn't and then the recall came out, the one with the battery nut too. Yeah, I had the dead battery issue when I took it in the first time. They said I had left the key on.
Anyway, is there another remapping recall?
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Xb9
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check with your dealer.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=290431&post=1191079#POST1191079
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Helicon
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I just checked with my dealer, and they are saying there is no re-flash and that the only flash they see on HDnet has the same number. Does anybody know the number of the new reflash??? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Slypiranna
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NO NEW FLASH, YET, just an update to it!?!?...THE SERVICE MANAGER WAS WRONG...BUT I'LL TAKE THE 10 LASHES!mm

(Message edited by slypiranna on July 09, 2008)
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Hitman44139
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK... My bike is done 620 service , recall and the UPDATE re-flash. So there is one out. I will pick it up in the morning to see what's up..... details to follow.
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Nxtr
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, What the Flash LOL.

So what is this Update, please clarify...

If you had the flash done does it need to be done again?

If your bike came with the updated flash when purchased, do you need the update?

Now I am flashing confused...

V/R,
Nick
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sly, um, what is this update to the existing flash?
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Slypiranna
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems to be anyone's best guess as the dealer's service manager that first said this was new is kind of backing out on anything more than an "update" to the reflash that we know of.

The customer's bike was a late build so it was already flashed with what we think of as the latest version. This customer did report feeling a difference though and why an update to the current one without being a new one is something that I cannot get my head around...It's really hard to know without getting REAL input from BMC or pulling the ecu file and comparing.

If and when we can get such verified info AND before I reflash AGAIN, I will be pulling and saving my current flash to disc...just in case.

I'm convinced that Xb9 is right, to perfect each and every bike might just lead to custom mapping. There seems to be just too many variables for one burn to cover.

That is where this 11 is heading, based upon what we've experienced thus far. mm
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Xb9
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since a couple of other Dealer's have checked HD-Net and there is nothing new but the current (first) re-flash, I think someone was told something by a Dealer that was incorrect.
That's how rumors get started......I guess we're still waiting on the second one.

This thread can die now.
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Hitman44139
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I don't know just relaying what the service manager said to me when I asked about my bill. I'll confirm thursday noon time. If I'm being lied to I'll let you know and if I F@&*ed up I will also let you know.
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Crashstp
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hitman had an older flash - flashed it up to the current flash
Bob
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Hitman44139
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Im back in the saddle. Dealer hooked me up. Bob is awesome! and knows his shit!! Bike runs great from what I can tell in 6-8 miles. Recall is done and Bob can tell more but the flash they did ( I believe he said a new one) changed the timing and injection map.
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob:

Is there a new number to identify this "current" flash that is subsequent to the older 1st flash?

TIA
Neil S.
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Teach
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is killing me.
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Crashstp
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will pull the numbers later - buried here today
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Jotrevza
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Crashstp,

I Would be happy to get that bulletin number from you since my dealership knows absolutely ZIPPO about ANY reflash/remap of the ecm being req'd on this bike! The service mgr himself claims he called HD/Buell and they knew nothing about it either???

I don't know what to believe anymore......

Thanx a bunch for checking into it.

Tracy
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Crowley
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Count you blessings. Buell UK still haven't notified owners of a recall!!!!!
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Jotrevza
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi again guys,

Here's the ECM reflash info. I got this from one of the local service writers who called HD/Buell today.

Bulletin #B-071, 05-02 April 29, 2008 Buell 1125R ECM reflash.

Have fun with your rocketships......

Tracy
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Kttemplar
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is not a new re-flash. Those are the same numbers from the old thread. The date 29 April is the same and the campaign 05-02 is the same. If this is the latest info via a phone conversation with Buell, then there is not a new flash.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/357538.html?1214282911

Mike
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Slypiranna
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where is my 10 lashes?
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Jotrevza
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Kttemplar,

Yeah, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that! I just wanted to update whatever the existing or current reflash bulletin number was in case anybody wanted to reference it to their dealer.

Sorry if I created any confusion.....

Tracy
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Kttemplar
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jotreveza,

Thanks for the info. I wasn't firing on you. I just wanted to establish whether or not there is a new re-flash yet. This has been very confusing. It sounds like you have the "latest and greatest" information, being that they spoke to Buell on the phone today. It is actually a relief, because now I do not have to go down to my dealer and harass them yet, at least not until the next re-flash does come out.

Mike
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Hitman44139
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want my old flash back! my bike is popping the intake once in awhile and running hotter. But it is running better at higher RPM and getting better milage.... WTF .... So we have established that there is no new flash that I had the old one. Thats OK with me. Didn't mean to get hopes up, Was only going by what I understood.
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Crashstp
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

make sure your O2 sensors are reconnected and do a decent run at 45mph in 3rd gear after warmed up - also make sure the batt voltage is good - or stop by
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Hitman44139
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

make sure your O2 sensors are reconnected and do a decent run at 45mph in 3rd gear after warmed up - also make sure the batt voltage is good - or stop by

I did the O2 sensors gain. BAttery will do. Doing a 45 in 3rd in a few minutes. Temp got real hot last night it was cool out like in the upper 70's. I'll stop by Thanks Bob
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(Message edited by hitman44139 on July 11, 2008)
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Hitman44139
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did a 5 mile ride on 422 in 3rd at 45 MPH. Seems to be running cooler. Your the best Bob!!
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