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Manderson
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About a month and a half ago I purchased a used 2000 X1 with about 8500 miles on it in a private sale. When I test rode it, I didn't notice any problem (though its possible I simply didn't notice this). I trailered the bike back to my garage where it sat for a month while I was away on business.

Today I went to start it up and found that in first even though the clutch is pulled all the way in the drive is still about 1/2 to 3/4 engaged. With the engine off, clutch in and in first gear I cannot roll the bike. After shifting to neutral it rolls freely.

I've ordered the service manual and based on other posts will check the clutch cable adjustment, clutch cable lube and primary oil level.

Is there anything else I should be taking a look at? Could this be related to it sitting for a month? Thanks.
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the engine off, clutch in and in first gear I cannot roll the bike.

That is normal. Does this cause any other problems?

Did you start the bike? Does it ride ok?
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Manderson
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe I'm using incorrect terminology, when I said clutch in, I mean that the clutch is fully disengaged (I have the clutch lever fully pulled to the handlebar) and I was expecting this to be equivalent to neutral, ie. I can roll the bike freely. This was the case with my first (much smaller) Suzuki.

I have started the bike in neutral but I didn't ride. I was uneasy about shifting into first for fear that I would not be able to disengage the drive.

When I try to start the bike in first with the clutch fully disengaged it lurches forward with the starter. On my Suzuki I could start it in first with the clutch disengaged. If your telling me that this is just the way the bike is and there really is no problem, that would be great!
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Kilroy
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No that is not normal. Adjust the clutch and/or cable once you get the service manual. These are easy, straightforward adjustments.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No that is not normal.

I can't tell, it depends on exactly what he is describing.

The bike definitely will not roll as easily with the clutch pulled in as it will if you have it in neutral. How much more difficult it should be is not going to be easy to describe on the internet.

It has a wet clutch, meaning the clutch plates spin in oil. Sitting for a month has given the oil plenty of time to seep out from between the plates to the bottom of the transmission. That certainly isn't making it any easier for the plates to slip. But even if you had just ridden it, there is a substantial difference between rolling it in neutral and rolling it in gear with the clutch pulled in.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I try to start the bike in first with the clutch fully disengaged it lurches forward with the starter.

OK, I didn't read that part.

It shouldn't lurch. Kilroy is right, the adjustments are easy.
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Bgreiner
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it isn't the adjustment, you have a bigger problem that I experienced with my 03 xb9s. I would pull the clutch in, put it in first and the bike would take off like I slammed it in gear without the clutch pulled in at all. There were several bearings in the clutch assembly, or basket (I am not good with the terminology) that blew apart, due to water getting in through the stator. It wasn't a terribly expensive fix, but if adjustments don't work, that may be the problem. My mechanic told me that if the bike is exposed to long periods of rain or water in general, especially while leaning on the kickstand, water is able to get into the primary via the stator.
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Texas_firebolt
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sounds like it has just been sitting around too long. when a bike sits around without being ridden the clutch plates get a little sticky. first, make all the proper adjustments to the clutch. then change your fluid. then start it up, let it run for awhile in neutral and get nice and warmed up. hold the front brake lever while you shift it into gear. it should take care of the problem. if it still doesnt work properly you will have to remove your clutch plates, clean them up, then reinstall them.
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