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Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:43 pm: | 
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edm, I see the heat as an inherent characteristic of these motors...just like the vibes. How do you change that? Besides, it will keep you warm when then cooler weather hits up there....doesn't that happen in a few weeks? |
Edmbueller
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 11:07 pm: |
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fresno - c'mon we have at least a month till the snow flies lol.
the 5 hours through the rocky mountains in the rain on Tuesday was pretty chilly to say the least. |
Black_snowman
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 05:15 pm: |
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I just pulled mine off. It looks just slightly cooked deeper inside but you can only tell in direct sunlight.
Looks like this was the fix they came up with for the heat on the leg complaints. The tab on the front also insulates heat from melting an electrical wire coming out of the motor.
So, I can't recommend leaving this part off unless you're wearing leather pants and do something to protect that wire. |
Sheridan_bueller
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 08:57 pm: |
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Don't assume the engineers knew there was going to be some heat in this area, Snowman, Sly don't like that. But then he did call it a heatshield. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:03 pm: |
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I had to hit my muffler again today with Bar-B-Q paint and checked the plastic heat-dam.
Zero discoloration.
I'm guessing a lot of the "rideability" issues are related to lean running.
That would make the headers hot enough to glow in the dark.
If anything, Loretta's been running rich.
Right now, she feels dead-nuts on.
Z |
C4bird
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 12:15 am: |
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I pulled mine and checked it, no discoloring, 2k miles on the bike. I did polish my heat shield at about 200 miles, maybe had something to do with it.
I'm with Zac, bike running dead on right now, still have yet to get the reflash. I have even been cruising around town in the sub 3k rpm range with no issues.  |
Cutty72
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 04:43 pm: |
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after this thread, i actually looked. A little discoloration and such.
What do ya do... |
Red_raven
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 09:20 am: |
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The discoloration and warp are both there. So is the heat, in fact so bad the last time in traffic, that my inside thigh was burned red hot. I have done both the Cool tape and wrapped my headers. Yet, in my last track day at the Autobahn, Joliet, IL once the rev needle passed 8-9k rpm my right foot starts cooking. Yes, cooking literally. Which in turn forces me to back off the throttle. The essence of the problem is that the stock headers were never heat treated and they get extremely hot (the rear one especially), while in close proximity to frame and wire components. That is why the frame of the bike eventually gets too hot, depending on how much gas it contains. The problem could have been address prior to production by simply putting heat shield material on the base of the frame, which surrounds the rear header, as well as treating the headers with ceramic coating. It is extremely disappointing to me, that a bike which has such an incredible combination of engine, power delivery and handling prowess exhibits a problem, so simple to solve to begin with. Adding this plastic heat shield is simply a last minute band aid to appease journalists, but exhibits gross neglect to the customer. I love the bike, but I hate the heat. I am torn between selling the bike and just getting a new CBR1000RR, or taking another plunge, taking the headers off and sending them to Performance Coatings for treatment. The trouble is...I really do not know even if this will solve the problem. So far, there have been too many teething problems and I am on the verge of giving up. The only thing that prevents me is that first 15 minutes of the ride, when I do not think of the heat and just twist, turn and burn. Too bad, that 15 minutes on the street amounts to a lap on the track, after which the heat becomes intrusive and spoils, what is otherwise a true motorcycle nirvana. Sorry for the rant..but silence only perpetuates a painful problem. Corvus Rutilus egressus... |
Helicon
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:35 pm: |
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Krassh bought and installed some ceramic coated headers but never posted what the results were.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/366543.html?1212001269
So Krassh, have you noticed a significant difference in the heat output after installing the ceramic headers??? |
Krassh
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:22 am: |
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Well I only rode it 2 or 3 times since putting on the ceramic coated headers. Neither day was as hot as the day I had the only boiling fuel issue on my bike.
I never took any before or after temp readings with a temp gun. Then I laid the bike down about a month ago going around a corner (just scratched up the right pod) and soon after that got the call from the dealership about the recall. They advised I should not ride the bike (probably a little extreme) until the recall is performed. |
Red_raven
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 02:47 pm: |
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Krassh,
It usually takes less than 15-20 minutes of idling the engine for the frame to start heating up beyond prolonged touching comfort. What are the average climate temperatures now in your location? I was quoted about $90 per header by Performance Coatings. Can you confirm that? How long did it take from the point of shipping to the point of return? Thanks in advance for the reply! |
Krassh
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 03:46 pm: |
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Well I took the easy way out so to speak. I ordered mine from Al Lighton at American Sport Bike and just paid a core deposit on top of the $199 cost for the already coated headers he had in stock until I shipped my cores back. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 03:47 pm: |
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My frame has never felt uncomfortable to the point of burning any part of my body when in contact with it even before I installed the headers. |
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