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Author Message   Grancuda Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:47 am:        I just have to laugh every time someone says something about my S1 having a V-Twin because I have to remind them that the term V-Twin came from the early 1900s when Indian came out with the original "V-Twin" which mean a 42 degree 2 cylinder V shaped engine which mine clearly isn't since it is a 45 degree engine. So really we have all been misusing the term V-Twin.   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 11:07 am:        ummm...a "V" is a "V" regardless of actual angle, so long as it's fewer than 180 and greater than zero. the difference of 3 degrees in angle doesn't remove the Sportster engine from "V" classification.   Xl1200r Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 11:58 am:        ummm...a "V" is a "V" regardless of actual angle, so long as it's fewer than 180 and greater than zero. So if a BMW Boxer engine has an angle of 180 degrees (therefore not less than 180 degrees), how can it still be called a V?   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 01:43 pm:        I have no clue, as I did NOT moniker it thusly. I simply know that this is the industry-correct designation for this configuration.   Grancuda Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 01:59 pm:        It is also industry standard now to use the word billet incorrectly.   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 02:00 pm:        'zackly.   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 02:02 pm:        Keep in mind the difference between concision and precision... lest we all descend into the dark , murky waters of "motor" v "engine" all engines are motors, but not all motors are engines, sparky   Grancuda Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 02:54 pm:        every one knows motor is electric and engine is gas/diesel internal combustion   Borrowedbike Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 03:08 pm:        Slaughter, You stole my line! (More forgivable here than on the track at least) These conversations bore me, I'm getting on my engine-cycle and going home...   Slaughter Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 03:10 pm:        quote: every one knows motor is electric and engine is gas/diesel internal combustion Oh yeah??? How about using an ENGINE LATHE to turn your freaking BILLET???   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 04:19 pm:        No grancuda, "gas/diesel" combustion engines are also motors, but electric motors are never engines. Unless, of course, Motorcycles are all electrically-driven, as with all other Motorsports machines...   Xl1200r Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 04:58 pm:        every one knows motor is electric and engine is gas/diesel internal combustion What about a Sterling engine which has no combustion and isn't electric?   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:01 pm:        Nothing in my post discludes the sterling. Note the quotes I put around "gas/diesel", as it isn't part of my definition. Speaking of these engines, ever hear of the "google"?   Slaughter Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:04 pm:        OK - if I "ride" somewhere, do I have permission to use the word "motor" as a verb? -- as in: "I'm going to MOTOR over to the Starbucks to compare spec sheets with my fellow poser buddies?" or should it more correctly read: "I'm going to ENGINE over to the Starbucks to compare spec sheets with my fellow poser buddies." (wow, I'm so CONTROVERSIAL!)   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:10 pm:        zackly my point, re: MOTORcycles, etc. the engine/motor thing is irksome as all hell.   Blake Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:26 pm:        We are surely blessed in enduring the pain and suffering of such irksome issues. Otherwise we'd probably be mad.   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:28 pm:        maddening, isn't it?   Ft_bstrd Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:52 pm:        What about a train ENGINE powered by electric MOTORS driven by electricity generated by a diesel ENGINE. Which is it?   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:53 pm:        Motor still covers all the above. Motor is always correct, just not as concise as some might prefer, some of the time.   Badlionsfan Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:57 pm:        So if a BMW Boxer engine has an angle of 180 degrees (therefore not less than 180 degrees), how can it still be called a V? the used to be called a boxer engine, just like the old air cooled VW's.   Crusty Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 06:34 pm:        A Boxer Engine?   Damnut Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 06:45 pm:        Otherwise we'd probably be mad. Sorry but dogs get mad, people get angry.   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 08:35 pm:        that's what he was punning, damnut....   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 08:37 pm:        "the used to be called a boxer engine, just like the old air cooled VW's." actually, the "boxer" moniker came later...and the boxer motorcycles came first   Loki Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 08:45 pm:        The proper terminology for a train engine is... locomotive I was corrected the other day by an old timer. (I like my new career with Union Pacific. I had a toy train or two as a kid. Now I get to play on and with the full size versions.)   Tramp Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 08:52 pm:        lucky bastid.... One of the coolest jobs I can imagine!   Cochise Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:35 pm:        please understand that i'm typing this with a beneficent grin I usually just type with my fingers   Cyclonemduece Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:43 pm:        i put some MOTOR oil in my ENGINE   Slaughter Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:48 pm:        Isn't it BENEFICIENT?   Badlionsfan Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 06:44 am:        i put some MOTOR oil in my ENGINE I use a synthetic engine lubricant.