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98s1lightning
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 01:16 am: |
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Now its not totaly finished but I did ride it 11 miles tonight. I will be taking it to Jim very soon so he can dyno tune it and get it all hooked up. I looking for 1 billion horse power, Jim has his work cut out for him.
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Pepperk496
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 01:21 am: |
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Beautiful. I especially like the flip flops. Nice touch! |
Wile_ecoyote
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 01:40 am: |
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oooo aaaaa yummy! like to give it a twist o the wrist! very nicely done, congrats be safe |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 04:50 am: |
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Classy |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 06:36 am: |
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I'll be interested to know if there's much lag from the turbo & if you can hear it whistling. From the pic it looks a good size & might take a while to spool up. If you want it more reactive you'll need a small one on each pot. But that's getting a bit complicated. Sure looks neat though, I'm impressed. |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 07:12 am: |
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overall the whole bike looks great. keep us updated with the dyno and how she runs. |
Ducxl
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 07:48 am: |
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If you want it more reactive you'll need a small one on each pot I don't see it.Whether it's two smaller ones(one on each pot) or one bigger one being fed from both cylinders(greater volume?). What WOULD be the difference? I like the bike,as do we all,of course. Grumpy just sparked my curiosity. I love the whir of the Ford diesels spooling up.Cool |
Jimidan
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 08:04 am: |
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Move the truck and the shoes, but other than that, nice job on the bike. I know, everybody is a critic. But if you are going to go to all the trouble of spit polishing the bike and taking photos under good lighting for publication on the freakin' World Wide Web, then how long would it have taken to move the dang truck and flipper-floppers (you don't actually wear those things, do ya"?)? So, don't just louse up this job, thimk! |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 08:07 am: |
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A small turbo rotor has less momentum and therefore spins up quicker. In auto applications they'll use two small turbos rather than a single large one for this reason (Nissan turbo V-6's for instance). I imagine it'd be hard to find two turbos small enough to do this with a 1200cc motorcycle though. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 09:18 am: |
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One billion horsepower!
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Thumper74
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 09:36 am: |
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It wouldn't be difficult, it would be pricey. Putting a turbo on each cylinder would be inefficient as the turbine/compressor would lose velocity between the cylinder firing. Also, in this case, the two smaller turbos would probably have a higher moment of inertia (the moving parts weigh more than a single, larger turbo). The only concern I see with the set up is the oiling. Is it self contained? The center section doesn't look like anything I've seen before... If it's not self contained, where did you feed the oil from? To? The blow off valve is sweet, but I would see about aiming it down. I don't know what the air pressure is at 80+, but at speed, I would be worried about the air pressure from moving would be higher than the air coming out of the BOV and reversing it's flow. I dig the carb bonnet, maybe paint the lid to match the bike? Thumper (so many questions because he's been unable to figure out a practical way to do his own turbo setup) |
Simple
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 10:11 am: |
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thats cool! so how do you control boost, just with the BOV spring, or is there a wastegate somewhere ...or? what are the specs on that turbo? |
Gohot
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 11:01 am: |
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Surely you JEST, I can only see that pile getting about eight hundered thou, what are You sniffing Glue............LOL ......... s..ss..sss..sweeeet!!! Keep us posted, and let us know how you do with the heat, and if you suceed in keeping it cool. Dang Man, I got'sta have one too!!!! |
Henry_the_8th
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 01:41 pm: |
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Niiice! Sold the CB750s by the way. |
98s1lightning
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 02:41 pm: |
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Well I'm sorry that I did'nt please all of you! hahahahaa! Those pics were sneek peeks of whats to come, I still need the install the EGT, plum the BOV so it can see boost and the turbo itself has its own waste gate. The turbo is fully self contained whith its own oil and played a huge part in why I chose that turbo. My to do list consists of ....Boost gauge, Exhaust temp gauge, and a complete electric fuel system with regulater. After I have it all dialed in it will all come apart and get the pretty stuff like before. I'm shooting for October fast complete and ridable. This pic was in the begining
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Bigdaddy
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 09:37 pm: |
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Beautiful. |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 10:33 pm: |
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Sweet Ride!! |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 12:52 am: |
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sweet cripes almighty. That has got to be the closest Buell equivalant to the Shelby Cobra that I have seen. Hold the hell on. |
Beachbuell
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 12:57 am: |
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Clean set up on that turbo. I've seen plenty of turbos before. But, yours is the least intrusive I've seen. Nice! |
Simple
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 01:48 am: |
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will you give more specs/info on that turbo? i'm kind of curious of a self contained head unit. me personally, i havent ever seen a turbo like that...blower on the otherhand yes but not a turbo. curiosity... |
Rfischer
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 09:41 am: |
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That turbo is a variable vane type. The vanes start with a fine angle to spool up quickly and then rotate as boost builds. I had the same set -up [plus an intercooler] on my '90 FXR a few years ago. Erik Buell also showed up at a homecoming once with an turbo'd tuber; he'd stuffed an intercooler in the "bread box" to keep charge-air temps down and maximize boost without detonation. Heads up: a good idea else you run the risk of melting pistons and pounding out the bottom-end. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 09:54 am: |
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VNTs are great for quick spool *and* high rpm flow / boost. I have a 1989 Shelby CSX with a factory VNT turbo, and compared to my wastegated turbocars that thing's a rocket. I have my cars tuned pretty well but there's still that half-blink of lag...but not on the VNT, it hits maxboostrightNOW. Even stepping up from the stock VNT25 to a 60 trim VNT, it still spools lightning-fast. Carroll Shelby himself looked under my hood at VIR in 2001 and called one of his engineers over..."hey man, that's not the one we put in there, is it?" Think of comparing a racquetball to a softball...that's the size difference. After he autographed my dash I ended up giving him the info from where I got the turbo - last I heard his 86 GLHS Omni got one to go with its 16v head and was putting out in the neighborhood of 430hp. Yeah. In an Omni. LOL. Is yours a ballbearing center, or thrust bearing? BB turbos have near zero rolling friction - it's freaky to spin one on a bench and watch it go and go and go and go and go - and require lower oil pressure so I'd guess it'd be a great application for a self-oiler. Also, something to consider is a breather filter of some sort on the BOV. In engine vacuum they can actually suck a little air, no sense sending dirt through the system. Point it straight out to the side - right in the window of the car next to you. They'll love it! I'm not sure about the Nissan setup (I'm guessing you were speaking of the 300ZX TT), but I know the late model dual turbo setups are a small and a big - small feeds the big, big feeds the engine. I believe on the 300 it was partially a packaging consideration (less plumbing) as well as lag-beating. Gorgeous bike. Please keep us posted on how it does And if you're ever in MD, stop by. I'd like to introduce you to my wife. She thinks *I'm* crazy...lol |
Thumper74
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 12:35 pm: |
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PLEASE tell me the turbo! I figured that it was a self contained unit, but I have never heard of them. Who manufactures it? Do they have the maps readily available...? I'm pleased with the turbo, I would just like to pick your brain! (Message edited by Thumper74 on June 16, 2008) |
Rfischer
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 01:27 pm: |
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That's an Aerocharger kit I believe. They're in Tonawanda [Buffalo], NY. Or were the last time I checked a few years ago. Kinda hard to get hold of but if you're persistent, somebody will eventually answer the phone.. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 01:43 pm: |
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I would think that you would have to convert over to a carb. Stock FI has no sensors for mass air flow or air presure. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 01:53 pm: |
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The S1 was carb'd from the factory. None of my turbocars are MAF cars, but they do have a MAP sensor to read manifold pressure/vacuum so the EFI can adjust. Biggest thing on the carb is to get it reworked to work under not only vacuum like normal, but to also feed fuel during positive pressure situations. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 02:20 pm: |
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You have to pressurize the float bowl, but then does the diaphragm open the needle? Do they just abandon the vacuum style carb? |
Littlebuggles
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 04:29 am: |
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!!!!NEAT!!!! That seat is pretty sweet too, by the way. |
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