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Kyle78210
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 10:29 pm: | 
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Hello, I have a 2002 blast that I orig bought for the wife. I was told and believed the guy in good faith, that the buell was a 4 speed...today I found out otherwise.....I am a moron. The bike goes through all the gears smoothly, clicking in each gear. 5th is invisible! it doesnt even feel like its supposed to be there...nothing. I have heard of second going out, but 5th?? Not being familiar with buells I was able to figure out the clutch adjustment and throttle adjustments, but I'm not a mechanic. Money is also tight so I will probably have to try to fix this myself. Any sugestionns or tricks regarding this would be much appreciated. Thanks very very much in advance
Kyle |
Sarodude
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 04:07 pm: |
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Kyle-
Does it click out of 4 and into 5 and then not transmit power? Or does it just not click past 4th?
Depending on the answer, the solution might be as simple as a shifter pawl adjustment. That does take a couple of tools - but it is a doable job.
Of course, depending on the answer, the solution might also be a lot uglier....
-Saro |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 10:12 pm: |
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Hey soro, Thanks a bunch for getting back with me...much appreciated. It doesnt click past 4th. If I bite my tongue, look to the left and hold my privates ever so slightly it will go into 5th after much trouble. a friend of mine sent me this today...
::If it still does it, you may have to take the primary cover off and
the clutch/chain/etc. off as a unit to adjust at the shift pawl, and
make sure the drum pins are sticking out at equal lengths, then
assemble to do the clutch adjustment at the primary, then at the
cable, then the primary adjustment - which should be loose during the
afore mentioned adjustments, usually after that you will shift better
than when it came out new from the factory.
I'm a novice at this, I was under the impression that the primary was the clutch side though...does this sound reasonable to you...and if I can get to this and the pins are un even, can I adjust them?
Thanks again for your time, like I said, I really really appreciate it!!!!
Keep the shiny side up
Kyle |
Sarodude
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 11:58 pm: |
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Well, let's try the most simple thing first:
Adjust the primary chain. The adjuster is visible underneath the primary cover. It's a fairly chunky bolt with a locknut - and possible even a spacer if the bike has never had this adjustment.
After the bike is warm, loosen the locknut. If that spacer is there, toss it. Turn the bolt in until the primary starts to whine. Turn it out until you start getting a clatter. Shoot for a spot where there is as little of both sounds as possible. Tighten the locknut. Cross your fingers.....
This procedure differs vastly from what's in the manual, but many use it with decent success. It certainly seems to get you better off than the officially prescribed process....
-Saro |
Sweatmark
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 12:35 am: |
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Might be facing this myself, after a lowside Sunday that chunked off the XB's shift lever pivot bolt. I can shift up & down 1st-2nd-3rd, then struggle for 4th, then wishful thinking for 5th... maybe I'm not holding my private parts correctly during the process?
Got some good advice yesterday pointing me towards clutch removal to check the shift pawls/ratchet, hoping that more serious surgery is unnecessary. Seems I might have to invest in a Sportster/Buell clutch spring compressor tool. What other tooling is required?
And now with Saro's excellent info, I've got a troubleshooting gameplan. Thanks!
(Message edited by sweatmark on June 11, 2008) |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 07:48 am: |
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No spring compressor required, just some "big freaking sockets" and a locking bar (just a scrap of aluminum).
The clutch assembly comes off... well... as an assembly 
Sweatmark, you probably bent the internal "bridge thingy" that supports your shifter shaft. I don't think it is an expensive part to replace, and it just bolts in there. It was well designed to "bend" during a low-side to protect the more expensive internal bits. |
Sweatmark
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 01:56 pm: |
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Reep- Thanks for the tips.
Kyle, don't mean to hijack your thread; instead, hoping that the Blast and XB shifting troubleshooting are complementary. Will start another KV topic to document my fix attempt. |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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thats ok buddy, I don't mind learning a little. |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 08:16 pm: |
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ok I have the clutch cover off, im not sure exatcly what the adjuster looks like, I know you said lock nut but I'm having a little trouble figuring this one out.....really sorry for the trouble....
kyle |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 08:20 pm: |
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I made this hillbilly tool to get the cover off to compress it, the lock nut that your talking about..when I find it its a normal clockwise thread right? And can I stuff a rag in the chain to keep it from turning without breaking something?? |
Bad_karma
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:48 pm: |
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Kyle
I'm sure he is talking about the shoe that is pressing up on the chain at the bottom center of the assembly just below the chain. First time I have seen the inside of a Blast primary a little different. It isn't necessary to disassemble the clutch to get to the large nut holding the clutch to the transmission input shaft. Just loosen the two large nuts and remove both as a unit. One of the nuts is left handed threads on the XL motor not sure about the Blast. Also the rotor has strong magnets in it so it will take some effort to get it free of the stator.
Joe |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 08:50 am: |
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Hey Joe you are exactly right...thanks a bunch!! From what im reading from all you helpful people is that there are pins on a denton plate behind the shift drum that I need to take a look at.I did have to take the clutch somewhat apart though to get to that nut, there was a cover, and instead of the traditional bolts around the cover its sprig compressed and held on with snap rings. I'm finding this little guy tricky to work on!
Thanks again Joe |
Kyle78210
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 06:55 pm: |
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Hey fellas thanks a bunch for the help, I'm up and running and was able to enjoy this sat. without arguing with the wife and kicking the dog...thanks a bunch!!!
Kyle |
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