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Krueger08xb12s
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear talk that there's no ECM's released yet for the '08 XB12S yet. Is this true? I'd like to replace my exhaust, filter, and as a result must also replace my ECM right?

I'm sure this is just another question for Al but I'm all ears for other opinions!
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Boney95
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUMP

*I second this question.* I think I know this: If you go with an aftermarket pipe and air filter the bike will run lean, thus you need a race ECM. I know there's a mixed opinion on this subject in regards to running too lean causeing engine damage... Well Im going to play it safe and wait for the Race ECM to come out and then buy the pipe and filter. Am I correct in this thinking? Another thing too. Im assuming that I should wait until after the 1,000 mile service to do these Mods?


Edit: Aw F it!! A Drummer and K&N are going on next week.

(Message edited by boney95 on May 10, 2008)
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Evil_twin
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been waiting for this info, too.


Bumpitty bump.


Rich
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is another thread on here about this... You should be fine without any ECM tuning (I had this confirmed with ECMSpy).

Install and ride. As always, there is still a little room for fine tuning though.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think Buell makes Race ECMs any more. I think now people get stock ECMs re-flashed (reprogramed) instead. American Sport Bike does it, I believe.

The ECM adjusts when the O2 sensor sees lean or rich, and should make changes to the open loop map too.

However, DDFI 2 can take a while to adjust, but eventually gets there. You have DDFI 3, which none of us are too familiar with yet.

I'd call Al at American sportbike and see if he can reprogram it for you, or if he is up to speed on the new ECMs in general.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what's all this "bump" internet lingo mean anyhow?
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Towjam
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what's all this "bump" internet lingo mean anyhow?

By replying to a thread you "bump" it back up to the top of thread list.
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Boney95
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUMP= putting the thread back on top of the thread list, #1.
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Towjam
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bump!

Set!

Spike!

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Vwflat4driver
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

trust me guys its on its way.....give it till june.....seriously
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell still makes race ECMs...for 07-earlier bikes. Nothing released *to the public* ; ) yet for the 08s....
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Thulsadoom
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am very interested in this subject as well. Is it me or does that pic make me hungry for some reason? Sheesh!

DOOM
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Wantxbr
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys I sent an E-Mailed to see when their going to have the TFI for the 08 Buells, this is the response I received. It's a piggy Back Modual but something is better than nothing and they work pretty well.

Hey Brett, I just got off the phone with Chris at Dobeck Performance/Techlusion TFI their in the process of making one for your bike it should be ready within a couple of months you can check back with me if you'd like around the end of July and I should know more then.Thank you !
Todd EVERYTHING To Light Up Your Ride!
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(Message edited by wantxbr on May 06, 2008)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AFAIK Al is also working at a near-fever pitch to get the DirectLink working on the '08s.
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Evil_twin
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, what you're saying is, I am going to have to tune the dammed thing myself?

I do not have that kind of confidence in my tuning abilities or my "guy"'s ability either.

I was hoping there was going to be some thing that is plug and play.

Rich
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Vwflat4driver
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have my bike at jt&s performance in sonoma. its an 08 9sx . theyve taken the ecm out and sent it to techlusion to have the map downloaded and as far as i can tell my 9 is the test mule. i should be picking it up this weekend. i'LL keep you guys informed
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The TFI's of previous models were uh.....
"problematic" to say the least.
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Watrousmark
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suppose that Buell has taken steps to keep ECMSPY out now?
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On an 08, you should not need to tune with the mods you want to do. As always, it CAN be tuned to run just a tad better.

NO TPS for the 08's.

The 08 Buell's are compatable with ECMSpy.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If TFI is remapping the ECM for you, that sounds interesting.

If it is the old TFI box that is made for open loop systems, it seems to constantly go out of tune as the bike changes AFV value to compensate for the box.
OR
You set the box so the AFV will not change, then the bike can't adjust for altitude or temperature correctly.

This was our speculation a few years ago when many of us where using the TFI.

(Message edited by spatten1 on May 07, 2008)
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Vwflat4driver
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

08 buell xb 12 codes are cracked but 08 9 models arent yet
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The TFI's of previous models were uh.....
"problematic" to say the least.

To say the least.
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Ftmyersbueller
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

VwFlat said it best. Give it until june/july, and you'll have something plug and play. I have a drummer/open airbox mod on my 08 sx. It runs...alright for the most part with the new mods. Im a big fan of ECM spy, and i've been "tuning" my lady with it for a few weeks now, and have gotten some very nice results with it so far. Its definetly not for the plug and play/ squemish (sp) types, though. For the tinkerers, its "fun". If your interested in ECM spy, head over to buelletinboard.com, and do a search on it. Xopti is THE guru of spy. He'll even remap the thing for you for a price. Somewhere around $180 I think. I'm not trying to advertise the guy or anything, im just giving you another option. Ive never talked with him personally because i'm doing my own. I'd have it no other way but thats just me
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Give Bud Curtis a call at Hals HD(A sponsor if Badweb), about a Daytona Twin Tec tuner. Similar in concept to the TFI, but far less problematic, and more "tunable".

They'll have one working on an '08 very shortly I'm told.
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Zpyro
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I waiting on my Special OPS can and I had someone make a cable for me so I can hook it up to ECMspy and have Xopti tune it. can't wait : D
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Boney95
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bump. Any other opinions?
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Boney95
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thread didn't bump.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hals got a Daytona twin tec working last week on the '08s.
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Scgbambie
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bump
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