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Jaimec
| Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 08:35 am: |
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Jack, That was my point. In order to board the ship for an 8:00 AM crossing, I have to be up there the night before. The Scotia Prince used to sail at 9:00 PM giving me plenty of time to take a leisurely ride up from Long Island to Portland, have a nice dinner in town, and still have plenty of time to ride over to the port and board the ferry. The Cat may be a technological marvel, but it isn't nearly as convenient as the Scotia Prince was. And God help you if the water is the slightest bit rough... you'll spend most of your time "driving the porceline bus" if you know what I mean... |
Elvis
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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Not a bad start. Morning practice: Pos No. Name Hometown Laps Best Tm In Lap Diff Make Model/Engine 1 1 Jordan Szoke Brantford, ON 17 1:10.129 14 - Kawasaki ZX-10R 2 34 Kevin Lacombe Granby, QC 15 1:10.645 12 +0.516 Yamaha YZF-R1 3 13 Matthew McBride Mississauga, ON 16 1:10.667 16 +0.538 Suzuki GSX-R1000 4 6 Brett McCormick Saskatoon, SK 18 1:10.757 18 +0.628 Kawasaki ZX-10R 5 61 Michael Barnes Boca Raton, FL 13 1:11.155 10 +1.026 Suzuki GSXR 6 3 Chris Peris Calgary, AB 11 1:11.576 7 +1.447 Suzuki GSX-R1000 7 81 Jeremy Stepper Calgary, AB 16 1:12.715 13 +2.586 Suzuki GSX-R1000 8 16 Francis Martin Sherbrooke, QC 18 1:13.103 18 +2.974 Suzuki GSX-R1000 9 68 Csaba Werner North York, ON 26 1:13.321 25 +3.192 Suzuki GSXR 10 78 Karl Daigle Granby, QC 13 1:13.558 3 +3.429 Kawasaki ZX-6R 11 157 Brian Blaauwendraat Truro, NS 13 1:13.599 12 +3.470 Kawasaki ZX-10R 12 14 Steve Crevier Maple Ridge, BC 17 1:13.870 12 +3.741 Buell 1125R 13 723 Andrew Dunlap Truro, NS 21 1:14.061 12 +3.932 Kawasaki ZX-10R 14 227 John-Ross MacRae Calgary, AB 7 1:14.175 7 +4.046 Suzuki GSX-R750 15 265 Chris Murray-Audain Scarbrough, ON 23 1:14.351 20 +4.222 Kawasaki ZX10 16 333 Steve Bourdeau Verdun, QC 10 1:14.674 10 +4.545 Suzuki GSX-R600 17 38 Terry Steeves Dartmouth, NS 20 1:14.780 15 +4.651 Kawasaki ZX-10R 18 39 Ross Millson Hamilton, ON 23 1:14.840 14 +4.711 Suzuki GSXR 19 83 Marie-Josee Boucher Montreal, QC 17 1:14.919 5 +4.790 Honda CBR1000RR 20 53 Elie Daccache Ottawa, ON 10 1:15.028 6 +4.899 Kawasaki ZX6-R 21 87 Dave Young Woodstock, ON 13 1:15.210 9 +5.081 Suzuki GSX-R1000 22 196 Matt Cooper Guelph, ON 22 1:15.260 9 +5.131 Yamaha YZF-R1 23 711 Franklyn Dominquez 14 1:15.477 12 +5.348 Kawasaki ZX-10R 24 36 Dean Plater 22 1:15.581 21 +5.452 Yamaha YZF-R1 25 420 Mark MacDonald Sydney, NS 15 1:16.761 9 +6.632 Kawasaki ZX6-R 26 139 Rick Langille Nauwigeuauk, NB 14 1:17.221 13 +7.092 Honda CBR600RR 27 32 Cory Canfield Oakfield, NS 9 1:17.895 6 +7.766 Suzuki GSX-R600 28 69 Zenon Nelson Bowmanville, ON 0 -.--- 0 - Suzuki GSXR-600 29 98 Todd Scott Bedford, NS 0 -.--- 0 - Suzuki GSX-R750 30 303 Dan Henri Orleans, ON 0 -.--- 0 - Yamaha YZF-R6 31 801 Alex Welsh Uxbridge 0 -.--- 0 - Triumph 675 Afternoon practice: (see below) Since this bike has never been raced at the Superbike level before (NO Buell has ever been raced at the Superbike level for that matter), and since Steve C. has never raced the bike before, and since it should be down on power against some tough competition, I've been thinking a top ten finish would be GREAT. Based on these results, a top ten seems like it could happen. I'm sure Steve C. is learning MUCH more with each lap than just about anyone else out there. Great start! (Message edited by blake on May 23, 2008) |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 09:59 pm: |
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Canadian Superbike, Friday May 23, 2008, Afternoon Practice:
Pos | No. | Name | Hometown | Laps | Best Tm | In Lap | Diff | Make | Model/Engine | 1 | 1 | Jordan Szoke | Brantford, ON | 12 | 01:09.1 | 11 | - | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 2 | 6 | Brett McCormick | Saskatoon, SK | 12 | 01:09.4 | 9 | 0.33 | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 3 | 34 | Kevin Lacombe | Granby, QC | 12 | 01:09.6 | 12 | 0.486 | Yamaha | YZF-R1 | 4 | 3 | Chris Peris | Calgary, AB | 17 | 01:09.7 | 15 | 0.616 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 5 | 13 | Matthew McBride | Mississauga, ON | 17 | 01:09.9 | 10 | 0.777 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 6 | 61 | Michael Barnes | Boca Raton, FL | 16 | 01:10.2 | 14 | 1.094 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 7 | 81 | Jeremy Stepper | Calgary, AB | 16 | 01:11.7 | 9 | 2.605 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 8 | 16 | Francis Martin | Sherbrooke, QC | 16 | 01:11.8 | 7 | 2.656 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 9 | 14 | Steve Crevier | Maple Ridge, BC | 8 | 01:12.4 | 6 | 3.271 | Buell | 1125R | 10 | 68 | Csaba Werner | North York, ON | 18 | 01:13.2 | 13 | 4.115 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 11 | 78 | Karl Daigle | Granby, QC | 5 | 01:13.3 | 1 | 4.162 | Kawasaki | ZX-6R | 12 | 711 | Franklyn Dominquez | Santo Domingo, DR | 12 | 01:13.4 | 10 | 4.32 | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 13 | 303 | Dan Henri | Orleans, ON | 15 | 01:13.5 | 14 | 4.424 | Yamaha | YZF-R6 | 14 | 53 | Elie Daccache | Ottawa, ON | 10 | 01:13.7 | 10 | 4.596 | Kawasaki | ZX6-R | 15 | 196 | Matt Cooper | Guelph, ON | 17 | 01:13.7 | 11 | 4.606 | Yamaha | YZF-R1 | 16 | 39 | Ross Millson | Hamilton, ON | 21 | 01:13.7 | 8 | 4.617 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 17 | 98 | Todd Scott | Bedford, NS | 18 | 01:14.2 | 15 | 5.102 | Suzuki | GSX-R750 | 18 | 227 | John-Ross MacRae | Calgary, AB | 7 | 01:14.5 | 6 | 5.404 | Suzuki | GSX-R750 | 19 | 38 | Terry Steeves | Dartmouth, NS | 19 | 01:14.6 | 18 | 5.477 | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 20 | 333 | Steve Bourdeau | Verdun, QC | 8 | 01:14.6 | 5 | 5.499 | Suzuki | GSX-R600 | 21 | 265 | Chris Murray-Audain | Scarbrough, ON | 10 | 01:14.9 | 6 | 5.748 | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 22 | 83 | Marie-Josee Boucher | Montreal, QC | 16 | 01:15.0 | 11 | 5.912 | Honda | CBR1000RR | 23 | 420 | Mark MacDonald | Sydney, NS | 21 | 01:15.1 | 18 | 5.95 | Kawasaki | ZX-6R | 24 | 87 | Dave Young | Woodstock, ON | 8 | 01:15.1 | 4 | 5.992 | Suzuki | GSX-R1000 | 25 | 69 | Zenon Nelson | Bowmanville, ON | 8 | 01:15.2 | 6 | 6.127 | Suzuki | GSX-R600 | 26 | 723 | Andrew Dunlap | Truro, NS | 6 | 01:15.7 | 4 | 6.589 | Kawasaki | ZX-10R | 27 | 36 | Dean Plater | | 15 | 01:16.1 | 12 | 6.956 | Yamaha | YZF-R1 | 28 | 139 | Rick Langille | Nauwigeuauk, NB | 19 | 01:17.6 | 11 | 8.463 | Honda | CBR600RR | 29 | 32 | Cory Canfield | Oakfield, NS | 8 | 01:18.3 | 4 | 9.192 | Suzuki | GSX-R600 | Go Steve Crevier! Go Buell Racing! (Message edited by blake on May 23, 2008) |
Elvis
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 10:29 pm: |
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Thanks Blake! My cut and paste really screwed up the format. That's much better. The more I look at those results, the more excited I get. Sure he's got some work to do to get on a podium, but I went into this assuming he'd have a snowball's chance of that right out of the box. A top ten finish would be absolutely great for the first race and give him something to build on when he has some time to think about where he can make improvements between races. He's probably already got 10 things in mind that can be improved after today's practice. Some he may be able to fix by tomorrow, but many will probably have to wait until he has some real time and access to parts. I just can't believe a Buell is out there with GSX-R's, ZX-10's, R1's and CBR's holding its own. I hope some people at Harley are paying attention to this and understanding what they're seeing. I'd say an homologated 1125RR could be competitive in AMA Superbike with much less risk and money than was required for the VR1000. |
Elvis
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 10:45 pm: |
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Here's a photo (2nd from left in 2nd row): http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_c ontent&task=view&id=769&Itemid=202# Looks like he's running a chain and full lower fairing - similar (identical?) to the fairing on the Bruce Rossmeyer Moto-ST bike. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 11:46 pm: |
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Nice. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 01:58 am: |
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It is hard to believe that the 1125r is performing that well against the literbikes. A top 10 would be amazing. Sweet pic. Here's to Steve C. holding the torch for all of us. Great story. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 02:01 am: |
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So what ARE the rules for the IL4s in Canadian superbike? DOes it equate more to AMA Superstock? Just wondering what the literbike competition is throwning down. I suppose we should be pleased at the practice results even against stock literbikes, let alone race prepped. Very cool. |
Elvis
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 07:59 am: |
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Fresno, Blake posted the rules somewhere earlier in the thread. From what I remember, fairly extensive engine mods are allowed- but with a maximum ouput of 185 HP,and they have to maintain stock bore and stroke. Other components are held close to stock with some modifications allowed to suspensions, exhausts etc. So the competition is likely putting out close to 185 HP. I would guess that the Buell might be putting out smething close to 150 HP - since stock rwhp is around 130, that would be a big improvement, but they could probably get there with some tuning and exhaust modifications. No matter what the current bike is capable of, it's nearly certain that there is MUCH more room for improvement - with suspension and engine tweeks - on the Buell than the competition which has been racing and refining for years. Going beyond that will likely require some exotic components, but it's possible if Deeley (and hopefully Buell) are willing to put some money into it. . . but I expect that will be developed over the season. I don't think they'd want to take a lot of chances with new components at this point. I'd expect them to be phased in, bit-by-bit so they can test them as they go. So the engine modifications allowed in this format make it possible for Deeley to have a chance of being competitive - even though it will be tough. Other superbike competitions (specifically AMA and WSBK, though I would think other series are similar) are shifting toward less modification allowed - leading to the Duc 1098R - so Buell would have a very tough time competing in those series . . . . . . without an homologated, higher performance bike. And that's what really excites me. To get into racing at that level, Buell would have to create a "1125RR". That's a big jump, and while I hope they're thinking about it, I have no reason to realistically believe a bike like that is anywhere in Buell's short-term future. But anything they can learn from Steve's experience will certainly be invaluable in developing something like that if they choose to. And I also think that Harley's interest and potential funding will leap exponentially if Steve can do something in Canada. So I'm watching this very closeley and keeping my fingers crossed. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 01:17 pm: |
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I am sure if Buell produced a $40,000 version of the 1125r it would be a world-beater, however it would be out of the reach of 99.9% of people. To produce a new version of the 1125r (with all its associated costs), JUST to go racing at the top levels is probably not an option. And on the retail front, Buell doesn't have the Ducatisti-type that would be willing or capable of shelling out that kind of cash for a very literal repli-racer (or garage ornament for most 1098R owners). But you never know what the future holds and if Buell produces a suped up 1125r in the next few years, I just MIGHT be in the market for a new machine by that point....keep the humane ergos and the price under $20K tho (Message edited by fresnobuell on May 24, 2008) |
Krassh
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 01:22 pm: |
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Also 2 1125R's running in Canadian Thunder this weekend at the same track. Saturday morning Thunder practice times from Calabogie Motorsports Park Pos No. Name Hometown Laps Best Tm In Lap Diff Make Model/Engine Class 1 26 Andrew Nelson Kars, ON 8 1:12.653 8 - Ducati 848 Canadian Thunder 2 123 Dave Estok New Smyrna Beach, FL 8 1:12.897 7 +0.244 Buell 1125R Canadian Thunder 3 29 Darren James North Vancouver, BC 8 1:13.526 7 +0.873 Buell 1125R Canadian Thunder 4 74 Michael Leon Bearonsfield, QC 10 1:13.842 10 +1.189 KTM Super Duke R Canadian Thunder 5 47 Erick Beausejour Val d'Or, QC 10 1:13.879 6 +1.226 KTM Super Duke R 990 Canadian Thunder 6 210 Michael Ferreira Kitchener, ON 9 1:14.813 5 +2.160 BMW HP2 Sport Canadian Thunder 7 79 Paul Glenn Keene, ON 9 1:14.813 7 +2.160 BMW HP2 Sport Canadian Thunder 8 171 Jim Proulx Ottawa, ON 13 1:15.286 12 +2.633 Buell XBR12 Canadian ST 9 164 Laurent Feuiltault Mississauga, ON 11 1:16.101 9 +3.448 Kawasaki 650R Canadian ST 10 78 Steve Walker Carleton, ON 13 1:16.857 3 +4.204 BMW R1200S Canadian Thunder 11 7 Olivier Spilborghs Surrey, BC 12 1:16.911 5 +4.258 Buell XB 9 Canadian ST 12 735 Dan Thomson Carleton Place, ON 14 1:17.951 13 +5.298 Buell XB12R Canadian ST 13 49 Dino Paron Arva, ON 11 1:18.086 7 +5.433 BMW R1200S Canadian Thunder 14 470 Scott Kerr Guelph, ON 9 1:21.356 8 +8.703 Buell XB12R Canadian ST 15 118 Shane Poon Bowmanville, ON 9 1:22.690 8 +10.037 BMW F800S Canadian ST 16 33 Dale Wood Adams, NY 0 -.--- 0 - Buell XB9R Canadian ST 17 37 Patrick Chartrand Mississauga, ON 0 -.--- 0 - Ducati PS1000LE Canadian ST 18 53 Keith McPhail Port Perry, ON 0 -.--- 0 - Buell XB12R Canadian ST 19 54 A.J. Simiana Bowmanville, ON 0 -.--- 0 - Ducati S2R/Sport Classic Canadian ST 20 17 Valter Bartolini Bologna, Italy 0 -.--- 0 - Ducati 848 Canadian Thunder |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 03:31 pm: |
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Saturday qualifying: Another solid day for the 1125r qualifying 9th in a field of 30+ literbikes. Even more exciting that Steve C and the 1125r will be participating in the Superpole later today. "The top ten riders from this morning’s session will move on to the first ever Pirelli Superpole qualifying event. Each rider will get one chance to put in their best lap, with the resulting times setting the first ten positions on the grid for Sunday’s final. The remainder of the grid is based on this morning’s session." http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_c ontent&task=view&id=776&Itemid=194 |
Elvis
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 04:41 pm: |
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Cool! Interesting to note that Crevier was 3.74 seconds behind Szoke in the first practice. He cut that to 3.27 by the second practice, and he cut that to 2.72 by this morning (2.999 behind the new leader). So he trimmed over a FULL SECOND off the gap between him and the clear favorite in just three practices. Szoke is riding a great bike that he knows like the back of his hand. He's not going to be making any leaps anytime soon. . . . but Crevier, on the other hand, is just getting started. |
Krassh
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 04:47 pm: |
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UNOFFICIAL Parts Canada Superbike Championship Superpole Qualifying Results from Calabogie Motorsports Park Pos No. Name Hometown Laps Best Tm Diff Make Model/Engine 1 34 Kevin Lacombe Granby, QC 1 1:08.440 - Yamaha YZF-R1 2 1 Jordan Szoke Brantford, ON 1 1:08.446 +0.006 Kawasaki ZX-10R 3 61 Michael Barnes Boca Raton, FL 1 1:09.100 +0.660 Suzuki GSX-R1000 4 6 Brett McCormick Saskatoon, SK 1 1:09.108 +0.668 Kawasaki ZX-10R 5 13 Matthew McBride Mississauga, ON 1 1:09.570 +1.130 Suzuki GSX-R1000 6 3 Chris Peris Calgary, AB 1 1:10.079 +1.639 Suzuki GSX-R1000 7 16 Francis Martin Sherbrooke, QC 1 1:10.962 +2.522 Suzuki GSX-R1000 8 14 Steve Crevier Maple Ridge, BC 1 1:11.333 +2.893 Buell 1125R 9 81 Jeremy Stepper Calgary, AB 1 1:11.519 +3.079 Suzuki GSX-R1000 10 39 Ross Millson Hamilton, ON 1 1:12.311 +3.871 Suzuki GSX-R1000 |
Elvis
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 04:56 pm: |
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An 8th spot at this point is FANTASTIC! Now I'm just hoping for a top 10 finish tomorrow. If he can do that and put it on the board, I'll be walking on air and counting down the days until Calgary. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 06:13 pm: |
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The interesting thing is how stock Crevier's bike is at this point. Unless something changed in the last couple of days, he's running a stock muffler and the only change in engine tune from stock is calibration. He does have one of the first chain drive swingarm kits, as Higbee ran at Willow the last race, to allow easier gearing changes. And that's about it, other than an aftermarket shock and the bodywork . . . |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 06:42 pm: |
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I'm glad that Steve is making the most of this opportunity! Go Crevier! This could be the chance Buell has been looking for to get a toe hold in a major series that can be used for R&D prior to taking on the big boys in the "Big Show" |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 06:47 pm: |
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So are we saying that that 1125r is competitive with appx. 140-145 HP vs. IL4s with 175-185 HP? |
Elvis
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 07:12 pm: |
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Thanks anony! Great info. Can you comment at all if there are good options to close that horsepower gap as the series progresses? Are there plans for modificatios that could get it anywhere close to the other bikes? |
Bigdaddy
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 08:12 pm: |
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I can't wait to see some pics (assuming a top 10 finish) of Crevier's smile |
Anonymous
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 08:40 pm: |
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Well, it's reasonably competitive anyhow. The rules in Canadian Superbike restrict you to 185HP at the rear wheel. Steve's bike is making about 135 RWHP. So he's down 50HP. But it's a short track, Steve is a great rider and the bike...OK, like all the magazines say, the bike is a piece of crap, so let's just give the credit to Steve and the Rurhless Racing team, who really are professional. |
Xb9
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 10:10 pm: |
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That's funny, someone on a CBR1000rr last week asked me how I like my 1125r, I just grinned and told them it is a piece of crap. I didn't offer any more comment, they looked at me kinda strange.... Those qualifying results look really odd with that piece of crap in there amongst all those full race Liter bikes. I'll bet he's eating them alive coming off the corners. Nothing rockets off the corners like an 1125r. Go Steve! |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 11:31 pm: |
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I would say running in the top third is competitive....50 ponys short on power an hanging with the big boys is something else. Really amazing if you think about it for a sec. |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 01:06 am: |
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I stopped being surprised by Buells doing the impossible long ago To quote Rocky Balboa: "It's not how hard you can hit but how hard you can be hit and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done." A 50hp loss is a pretty good hit but Steve is definitely moving forward. and Very, very awesomely at that. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 02:27 pm: |
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From the post qualifying dyno runs, looks like the IL4s are putting down around 180HP and weigh in at about 400 pounds, probably without fuel I would guess. http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.php?option=com_c ontent&task=view&id=793&Itemid=194 |
46champ
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 02:42 pm: |
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Has anyone seen the figures past 5th qualifing place? It would be interesting to see if the horsepower difference holds all the way thru the field. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 03:03 pm: |
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The"random" pre-qualifying bike (#39) Gixxer 1000 says it has 141 HP. I think that must be a typo (181 more likely?) as a stock Gixxer out the box will have more than 141 ponies. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 03:07 pm: |
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Damn, it would be interesting to see the 1125r on that dyno to see EXACTLY how much it is losing in terms of HP. |
Mcgiver
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 04:28 pm: |
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Dave Estok's 1125 is showing 118.4 hp,& 425 lb. Brian |
Mcgiver
| Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 04:31 pm: |
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Is it detuned for Thunder class? |
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