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     Travelingman |
Torque Spec is: 43-48 in-lbs 4.8-5.4Nm Apply blue Loctite 243 to studs on Solenoid Remove Negative battery cable before doing any work on this area or you may accidently start your motor according to SB. | ||
| Blazin_buell |
So Ed, do you think Chris has get it down now, the reflash procedure and can you tell a difference? I figured you'd make it there before me ,you're my guinea pig. BTW was that you I saw a couple of weeks ago on Hwy 123 I assume heading toward Seguin? Talk about a shock, passing another "25r" on the road. I was in a hurry and had to fight myself to not turn around and chase it down. The Mrs. and I were on our way out to Leakey for a weekend of riding. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Sweet, Thanks Neil. Z | ||
| Travelingman |
Shane, I haven't got to ride it yet still in shop trying to clear the engine light. No one on BWB has given any info on what it might be. Chris worked on it Friday late and Saturday early. He is waiting on factory Buell Tech that put the engine in your bike to call him back. According to Johnny in service the tech guy called today. Bike was running sweet to begin with. I explained to Mitch I am going to Dyno it again, if it doesn't make better numbers we'll go back to the old map. I didn't have battery issues but do have the potential fuel vapor - water heater bomb because of gas heating up in frame. I waiting to come home from a ride hear and explosion and walk out to find the garage missing. But that's what insurance and the Motor Company is for. | ||
| Anonymous |
T-man, ask them what the trouble code #'s are and if they are current or historic. Have them read them with digital tech as opposed to speedo. | ||
| Travelingman |
Spoke with Buell technician working on bike today. The code is saying the ECM is faulty. So there is a new ECM on order. But one problem, 1125R ECM's are on back order at Buell. So I will try and get one pull off the production line by begging customer service tomorrow. | ||
| Donutclub |
Uh-oh. ECM's are on back order? My Dealer tried again to reflash my ECM with no luck. He said that he was going to call Buell tomorrow to try to order a new ECM. The technician was able to reflash another customers bike, but not mine. I've always got the difficult bike. | ||
| Cataract2 |
hmmm... Sounds like there may be an ECM issue overall. | ||
| F_skinner |
hmmm... Sounds like there may be an ECM issue overall. Speculation | ||
| Blake |
Rumor has it that if the battery is not fully charged (>12.5+V), the reflash will be unsuccessful. So it might be worth ensuring that the battery is fully charged, meaning put it on a charger at the dealership for a good while prior to conducting the reflash. | ||
| Two_buells |
Had my updated Electronic Control Module calibration today. For my Buell 1125R My dealer that I bought the bike from kept giving me the run around for the last two weeks. I’m still waiting for a call back to schedule the ECM calibration. I called Iron Valley H-D/B last week and scheduled an appointment for Monday. Weather was cold (45) and raining. I rescheduled for Wednesday. I left work at 3:00 pm got there at 3:45 and was done and on my way out at 4:20. Great service! I even bought $140.00 worth of Buell stuff! Bike runs real good at low rpm’s. You can notice a real difference when you take off. No more down shifting to first to go around a slow city corner. Pulls real nice with no bucking from 1500 rpm’s on up. The Bikes Temps seemed to be about 10 degrees lower on the way home. Outside temp was 76 and AT was reading 76 while moving. Front/Rear LFV was 94.5/100 before flash and 100/105 after the 35 mile ride home Its like having a new bike. real smooth! | ||
| Slypiranna |
I completely disagree as well that we have any ecu "issue overall". The majority of the ecu's on the majority of the bikes produced are doing their intended duty just fine. +1 F_skinner for catching that statement... | ||
| Josh_ |
Hmm, anyway for a owner to tell if the bike is updated? My dealer didn't have the downloads available on Tues, but they did show up this morning. Only the tech could never get my bike updated. He said the procedure called for the key to be turned off, but never back on and he tried several ways but kept getting "upload aborted" or something like that. Only when I left on the "non-upgraded" bike, the throttle was all goofy in the parking lot (didn't want to go, then stuttered, then accelerated rapidly) before settling down and the bike was much better/smoother on the way home incl the low-rpm improvements noted above. | ||
| Bigdog_tim |
I had mine done on Tuesday. Took them about an hour - they had several failed attempts until they actually read the service bulletin. It was POURING down and stop/go traffic after they were done - so really didn't get a good chance to see any difference. I did ride to work today - and it feels a little rougher than before. But - it was only a 12 mile ride - and more stop/go traffic. I will ride some tonight and post any thing that feels different. | ||
| Ccryder |
So....... is it better or not? Start, stop, little throttle, low rpms yada, yada? We are waiting............ | ||
| Bigdog_tim |
I can't really judge based on the rainy ride home on Tuesday - it was just so darn misserable. This AM - it seemed to run quite rough. Surging intermittantly at any constent RPM between 3-4K. At 4K - she smoothed right out. But since it was all stop/go - not sure if that is a fair test. Will do about 100 miles tonight and post those results. | ||
| P_squared |
Dropped off my bike at the Dealer's on Tuesday night. They told me that the bike had to be at room temperature for the reflash, as per Buell. ???? Picked it up last night after work. It was done. Overall, haven't really noticed much of a difference. Still seems to have a little bit of surge (on/off) at ~3,500 rpm. I never noticed/paid attention to it before the reflash, since I usually run it @ 4k+.  Yup, still happy with it! | ||
| Spectrum |
Josh, See the note above in red about the difficulty with the flash at the key off sequence. They had the exact same problem with my bike and tried for several hours. My tech said the screen said you have 60 seconds to turn of the key, but Buell told him it was actually 5 sec. Only after turning it on and off several times was he ever able to get the screen that said 5 secs and the re-flash finally took at that point. | ||
| Cutty72 |
can't tell if mine is smoothing out because of break in, or the reflash. sitting at 1300 miles now. | ||
| Bigdog_tim |
Ok - rode 90 miles tonight after work with 40 of them in Seattle's famous stop and go traffic. Temp tonight was around 70 (it must be summer here). My bike has 2400 miles on it. Running at a constant 3500 RPMS the bike surges. No other way to describe it - just a rough bounce every little bit. Varying the RPMS (but staying below 4K) - problem is the same. Almost feels like the bike is lugging a little. This was more pronounced in First and Second. Much rougher post flash. If you accelerate through that RPM range - smooth as can be. Smoother than before the flash. Bike ran at least 10 degrees warmer - but this was really first decent warm day we have had this year. So - not sure if this is really a problem or that I have to keep the RPMs a little more than it "feels" natural to do (in city/urban traffic). Granted, I did not buy this bike to go stoplight to stoplight in urbania. But sometimes that is what you have to do to go from point A to B. | ||
| Josh_ |
The tech also messed with the idle circuit and the throttle cable slack. I don't know what happened but now the bike runs fine sometimes and has extremely erratic on/off throttle at other times. At one point at 30MPH in 2nd year I can ease on and off the throttle and the bike responds smoothly. A few minutes later repeating the exercise the throttle act like an on/off switch jumping 1000+ RPMs when trying to roll on/off. | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
600+ miles and counting....... Still no improvement , surges bad at 3500rpm and lower , even 4000rpm sometimes , but have no interest in taking her in till someone knows what to do about it , obviously she's still ridable with more than 600 miles since the re-flash , but as Bigdog said sometimes you gotta slow down ...... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I for one am not sold on this reflash one bit. If I choose not to get it, does it void my warranty? Again, it is very confusing with some people having good results and others not so good. Sound familiar? | ||
| Ccryder |
Maybe by the time you have it done the Tech will have figured out how to do it correctly. Mine worked out fine. YRMV. If you don't take what is offered then, you may stand on your own, especially after the warranty period is up. Time2Ride Neil S. | ||
| Josh_ |
Went back to the dealer. They tried the update on two other bikes, worked fine on one, they had issues with the other, got Buell involved working on it remotely.. and scrambled the ECU. Now it only says "Theft ID" or something. I talked them into trying mine again and it still wouldn't go. They reset the AFV and checked the throttle position sensor and the bike is better, but sill has occasional on/off throttle transition issues. Hope this gets resolved soon I'd like it perfect before I take it to Superbike School. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
If you don't take what is offered then, you may stand on your own, especially after the warranty period is up. I think after the warranty period is up, I don't have any choice but to stand on my own. It seems like for every successful re-flash, there is someone with troubles. I just don't want to trade in a bike with occasional niggles to one with constant or new niggles. | ||
| Josh_ |
I'll be driving by the factory tomorrow on my way to Lee Parks Total Control class on Sunday (all low-speed manuvering) Think they can reflash me as as go by? | ||
| Bearly |
So again, does anyone know if there is a way for an owner to tell IF the reflash was done? Is there a way for the ECM to display the Calibration Numbers? | ||
| Anonymous |
Bearly, no. you can ask the dealer to print you a copy of the ecm info when they hook your bike to DTII. This will have your cal and vin on it. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Bear, if you ride it a few miles and get the temp up, when you turn the key off, the fans will start slow, then speed up if you have the flash(maybe it's the other way around). If you don't hear a speed change, you prolly don't. |
