| Author | Message | ||
     Jaimec |
http://tinyurl.com/5o4z4p | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
How does it compare to an 1125R, I wonder? (Other than the price) | ||
| Swordsman |
All I can say is the world better rip on that bike as much as they have Buells, considering the powerplant. ~SM | ||
| Rubberdown |
USA; 180 hp and a 425lb dry weight. DAMN! Gotta be expensive. | ||
| Buellerandy |
Very few bikes could be compared to this model and have it be apples to apples. The price alone (estimated 44,995 i believe?) doesn't even make it a consideration for 80% of the riders out there. Though I hope for that price it blows the limited competition out of the water! I've been waiting for this bike to come to fruition. Will definitely have the attention of the bike collectors out there. | ||
| Crusty |
It's a pretty bike. I hope it runs as well as it looks. It's about time that someone in this country makes a true performance custom, and not just another chopper. (Nothing against choppers, if that's what you like) | ||
| Ducxl |
Cool bike.They even dialed 1-800-BREMBO!  We've all been told the V-Rod engine is too heavy/bulky for such an application from Erik though.Wonder how it'll work? | ||
| Jaimec |
If I remember correctly, it's going to be supercharged in the Roehr. Naturally, that means it won't qualify for any racing class that I can think of. Just a "Rich Man's Toy" like the Ducati Desmosedici, or the MV Agusta F4CC. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
That bike will be accepted like a turd in a punch bowl. I would like to have that bike & I would like to have some punch minus the turd... Rocketman will love it! | ||
| Bill0351 |
I'm pulling for the guy. If I had a big chunk of money, I would probably want one. I would sure be more likely to spend my cash on that than something from OCC. I hope the current state of our economy doesn't mess with his plans. He has gotten farther than a lot of other attempts at manufacturing a new American bike. Even if he only made one limited production run it would be impressive. I can't wait to read a full test. Bill | ||
| Jackbequick |
The engine in that is the Revolution engine used as is used in the V-Rod, at least as a starting point. From the Roehr web site: http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/page4.html The 1250sc is powered by a 180HP, specially developed supercharged version of the Harley-Davidson 1250cc Revolution engine. Engine: Supercharged, liquid cooled DOHC, 8v, 60deg V-twin Displacement: 1250cc Bore x Stoke: 105mm x 72mm Horsepower: 180hp @ 9500 RPM Torque: 115lb/ft @ 8500 RPM Chassis: CrMo steel/aluminum beam frame Wheelbase: 56 inches Rake/trail: 23.5deg / 98mm Tires: 120/70/17 frt. 190/50/17 rear Wheels: Marchesini 10 spoke forged aluminum Front suspension: Ohlins 43mm USD, radial mount calipers Rear suspension: Ohlins single shock with progressive linkage Brakes front: Brembo 2 x 320mm radial mount 4 piston calipers Brakes rear: Brembo 1 x 230mm, 2 piston caliper Seat Height: 31.5 inches Dry Weight: 425lbs It will certainly be a unique bike, and probably seldome encountered on the road too. Jack | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
it is neat to see such a bike be built but for that price you could go and buy any sport bike currently in production wheather it be a 1125r, a duc, gsxr or what ever and put all the ugrades you want on it like brakes and shocks and still have money left over to go buy an extra bike of the same kind in case you reck that one. | ||
| Court |
Once you get a pre-production motorcycle, and we'll assume for the moment that its's perfect, you are 7% of the way to going into business as folks like John Britten, the Hanlons and other learned. I'm a huge fan of these guys and I confess to reliving a lot of the fascination of remembering what Erik Buell and the Elves went through. Tough nut to crack. | ||
| Jayvee |
A $45K, essentially hand-made, motorcycle isn't really a 'production' motorcycle. More like an American Bimota. Rich man's toy. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
And for that "rich mans toy" which I agree with and those type of owners where will they, with their clean hands, get them serviced? I guess, call Jay Leno and maybe he will recommend someone. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
And for that "rich mans toy" which I agree with and those type of owners where will they, with their clean hands, get them serviced? I guess, call Jay Leno and maybe he will recommend someone. They actually give you a guy for that price, you just have to agree to feed him and make sure he's in after dark. | ||
| Tim |
So is HD or an HD dealer selling them engines? Or are they buying V-Rods as donor bikes? Most likely a minor detail as there is probably only one bike built. | ||
| Rich |
I'd like to rip on one. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I believe there is an agreement for HD to source the engines to Roehr. I sincerely hope he makes it. Bang for the buck is a matter of volume. Build a one of a kind gigantic piece of butt jewelry, and you can charge $500,000 for it. Build 25 units and you can charge $100,000 as collector's items. Build 100 units, and you can sell them for $50,000 as limited edition items. Build 10,000 units and sell them for $10,000 each, and it becomes a boutique item. Build 100,000 units and sell them for $7,500 and they become a commodity. I expect Roehr to live somewhere between the limited edition and boutique realms if he is able to survive as a manufacturer. We all know, though, that no manufacturer can do anything good starting with a less than perfect motor and building a quality motorcycle around it.  It'll be an extremely long shot, but stranger things have happened. | ||
| Loki |
with inflation taken into account.... What is $18k in 1992 dollars, equal to in 2008 dollars? | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Hey, it's got a bi-metal frame. Does that mean it'll cut out when it reaches a certain temperature? Wish I could afford one, I'd spend the money buying half a dozen other bikes instead! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Hey, it's got a bi-metal frame. Does that mean it'll cut out when it reaches a certain temperature? Nah, it fancies aluminum and steel. Roehr's frame "swings both ways".  | ||
| Americanmadexb |
45k?  are you serious? thats some bullshit! i could fill my garage with 5-6 nice toys for that! | ||
| Glitch |
I believe there is an agreement for HD to source the engines to Roehr. Mr. Roehr is a very approachable guy. He's up there with Erik Buell. Shoot him an e-mail with any questions you may have. I'll bet he answers you within the day. I asked him the last time this thread showed up about an agreement with H-D. There is none, and he doesn't see one (or didn't at that time, last Summer) happening either. That's one reason the bike is so expensive. He's a great guy, he's very excited about the bike. Reminds me of another very approachable guy I know. Best to him! How cool would it be if he made it big!?! | ||
| 46champ |
I think that this is great that Mr. Roehr has gotten this far, I wish him all the best. I know his bike is expensive but so are all the clone bikes, most of them seem to be in the 25k to 35k range and they don't have near as expensive components as Mr. Roehr's bikes. Plus most of these are coming from overseas that has got to hurt right now. Does anyone know what an RR1200 or RS1200 would cost in todays dollars I seem to remember when they were new on the show room floor for something on the otherside of $11000. I shure hope he can produce 501 of them because we would have a chance that a Harley engine would be the worlds fastest production bike. The fastest I can currently find is 203.392 set at El Mirage with a Hayabusa. A production bike with a blower at Bonneville just might have a shot. | ||
| Bad_karma |
If he can get this in the $20K range I would have to think hard but that H2O thing is just a personal hangup I have yet to deal with.But it does look nice, what the 1125 should have looked like. Joe | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
If he can get this in the $20K range This will come if he can get that far. Let's hope he does. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
20k would be more understandable for such a bike. any higher than 20k is not very practical. | ||
| Jaimec |
I'm having problems wrapping my brain around "Supercharged 1250 cc water cooled V-Twin" and "Practical" being used to describe the SAME motorcycle... | ||
| Ratbuell |
I know, apples and grapefruit here, but some of the most tractable, docile, driveable bracket racing cars I've ever driven are low-compression, EFI smallblocks with Procharger centrifugal blowers on them, or one of my own 4-cylinder turbocharged cars. Anything you can sit in rush hour traffic in, with no complaints out of the car and the a/c cranking away, then go to the track and rip off some 10.80s before picking up a pizza on the way home...just fine by me. Boost rocks - there when you need it, fuel economy when you don't. Best of luck to Mr. Roehr. He's got a nice looking machine there, can't wait to see if he can pull it off. Unfortunately in todays climate...he probably could have picked a more difficult time, but it would be tough to do. |
