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Bluezhawg
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Modesto Buell, Five Stars,Two Thumbs Up,ect.ect.
Those people really know how to run a business.I took my Buell 866 miles one way to have them lay hands on it!Now they are the only place I'll go for major work.Major Kudos to Modesto Buell,They Rock!!!!

Hey!Erik Buell are you listening....

Steve
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 2 cents worth. I took my bike (X1) in this morning. I had a computer failure they have a new one in the air as we speak I will pick it up tomorrow . Is that service or what.

Oh by the way they forced me to test ride the Firebolt...... Guess what my next ride will be.

That is Cowboy Harley Davidson/Buell of
Beaumont, Tex.
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Nykk
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stopped taking my '99 M2 to Bob Dron Oakland, CA. I have been taking it to Mike Talbot at Golden Gate Harley...Buell. I have to ride 20 miles past Bob Dron to get there but I enjoy every mile. Mike made some suspension mods for me (210#) that increased my confidence and lean angles. He seams to fit me in at my convienience even though there are always a lot of bikes in the service area.
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Pgandeguy
Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CYCLE CENTER of FREMONT

Bad experence at CYCLE CENTER of FREMONT. I walked in to make an appointment to have a jet kit installed, carb ajusted and dynoed on my 2000 Blast. I dealt with CURTIS BLOCKHUS. Everything was going OK, I was a little peeved that it would be 3 weeks untill they could get my bike in. The appointment was made then I asked ..."do you have a rough estimate of time, and what is the hourly rate" I about messed myself when Curtis came back with an answer of 5 hours THATS FIVE HOURS! at $89.00/hr, for a grand total of $445.00 in labor to put in a dynojet kit, ajust and make a run or two on the dyno (I purchased the kit from their parts department). So anyway, they only had two Buells on the showroom floor, the service center had a bunch of high school looking, low wage guys running around. Curtis at the service desk was trying to screw me, and I generally give the place a D- on service. Anyway, I walked out, immediatly after Curtis gave me the estimate, and I bought a manual, and will find somewhere else to go, even if I have to drive all the way to Modesto.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Five hours!?!? Should be two hours max. You did right PG&Eguy.
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Icepick
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you live in West LA, STEVE in the service department at Bartel's is a true pleasure to deal with - along with Erich in the sales dept (only works Sat) - both guys are dyed-in-the-wool Buell riders and know their stuff.

FYI I used to live in Colorado - High Country Harley/Buell is spot on - Mike Frieburg is the Buell mechanic there and he is awesome - my bike never ran so well as when he would wrench on it.
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Gravedigger
Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, great sponser in SPORT TWIN! They had parts in stock which is quite rare in this area. Usually a 2 or 3 week wait! Derik was quite helpful and offered overnight shipping or 3 day shipping! plus they sponser this site!!!

to them and this sites creators for picking such quality people!
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Buelliedan
Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ref: Sport Twin,

They also have my testimonial posted!!!
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Peter
Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad you've had good luck. I tried to buy a seat from them a few times, but nobody would return my calls or reply to my emails.
I guess I just wasn't meant to have one.
PPiA
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Sidewalk
Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up my '00 X1 (#373) and my wifes '00 Blast at Golden Gate. They had no problem talking to me about anything, even considering that I was not interested in a Harley (not this time, next time). They answered every question, helped us with equipment, and got us out the door with no problem. After only 2 weeks I got a nail in the already new tire. I called Bob Dron (I live right down the street) and it was 1 month. I called San Fran, 3 weeks. I then called Golden Gate, 1 day. Javier will fix you up there.

Golden Gate has a lot of U.S. Coast Guard members, current, past and spouses. The previous owner of my wifes Blast is married to a Coastie, she now works there (got the job about 3 weeks after we bought the bike).
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Gingerbreadman
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I decided to take my 99/x1 to the dealership it was originaly purchased from "Classic motor sports and Lawn Equipment" to have recall work done.I am the third owner of this bike which has 8700 miles on it and some appear to have been hard ones.I started by contacting one of the managers in the parts department on the phone.After explaining to Brent that I wanted a race ECM. , k/n filter and reset TPS, (I needed a k/n filter because I had made a force type intake.) Brent said to bring the bike up on the sixth of May. I delivered the bike and had 'SPORT TWIN' next day mail the K/N filter to 'Classic Motor Sports'. DATE 5/8: Called and recieved a voice mail recording, did not leave message. 5/10: Left for vacation. 5/18: Returned from vacation expecting to pick up my bike. 5/20: Called brent, he said the filter had not come in yet. 5/21: I called Sport Twin (great guys ) and they gave me the tracking number. (great stuff that tracking ) I called Brent later that day and explained that the tracking said he had recieved the filter at 10:38 am. 5/8 THIRTEEN DAYS ago! he assured me he would take care of it. 5/22 Called Brent back again, he told me he had the filter but, he did not have the cable to go from the scanalizer to the ECM . He would have it next day aired, and the bike would be ready by Sat. 5/25. 5/24:(friday) I called, NO CABLE! 5/29(wednesday) I called brent AGAIN, he said the part for the filter recall was not in but everything else was done. I calmly told him (nice of me eh? ) that it was no problem and to close out the account. I would come up to Traverse which was an hour and a half away, get the bike and ride it home. (now there's a leap of faith ) I was able to ride my bike home and it does run great now, but you make the call guys, would you take you're bike to Classic Motor Sports in Traverse City Michigan? I wont. (For those of you unfamiliar with Mich. ,if you look at your right hand palm up T.C. Mich. would be about where the tip of your ring finger is.)
p.s. I will say this, they were never verbally rude. Cost of parts and labor: ECM., plug wires, reset TPS. = 208.00 plus labor 184.00
thnx
the Gingerbread Man
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$184 labor charge for just an ECM install and plug wires???!!!
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Gingerbreadman
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And reset the TPS.They did try to charge me for someone elses oil & fiter change,but I caught that for them!
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The TPS is required for any ECM replacement. It should only take an experienced tech 10 minutes to perform. They ripped you off, badly.
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Gingerbreadman
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OH! I just remembered I drove home with no headlight also seems someone removed my fuse.So I drove to town and bought one and installed it in the parking lot.
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Gingerbreadman
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake I LOVE this bike inspite of all these problems!We have a good dealer 20 miles away to the west and another 45 minutes to the south the latter sells Buells and is probly where I will go
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Tavs
Posted on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's a fair price for the 10k service?
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Az_M2
Posted on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I paid just over $500. Don't know how fair that is.
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Dugus
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'PURCHASED MY 1998 BUELL S3T FROM BATTLEY CYCLE IN ROCKVILLE,MD. 'HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD TO SAY ABOUT THEM. ESPECIALLY THE SERVICE MANAGER, "YT", A GREAT GUY. WILL BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP HIS CUSTOMER. I REALLY GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT HE IS ON "MY SIDE".

ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S BATTLEY CYCLE,ROCKVILLE,MD.
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Bikerdude2
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why I will never buy another thing from Harley Davidson...I recently received a letter from a HD lawyer concerning an ebay auction I listed. Some may disagree, some way agree...I just wanted to share the letter with everyone. While I understand a Corporation will defend it's trademark against businesses who infringe, IMO this is a little much. For your reading pleasure..."Dear eBay Seller:
>
>The motorcycle which is the subject of this auction is neither a
>HARLEY-DAVIDSON nor a FAT BOY motorcycle. Consequently, it may not be
>offered to the public using those terms.
>
>In order for any motorcycle to be referred to or represented as a
>HARLEY-DAVIDSON (or FAT BOY) motorcycle, it must fulfill both of the
>following conditions:
>
>1. It must have been initially assembled in its entirety by
>Harley-Davidson Motor Company; and
>
>2. It must be equipped with three critical components installed by
>Harley-Davidson during the motorcycle's original manufacture (or with
>genuine HARLEY-DAVIDSON replacement parts for such components): the frame,
>the crankcases, and the transmission.
>
>As you are aware, your motorcycle was assembled in its entirety by someone
>other than Harley-Davidson, using a frame also made by someone other than
>Harley-Davidson. Consequently, while you may make reference to
>Harley-Davidson in the description of the auction with respect to any
>specific part or parts (if any) which actually originated with
>Harley-Davidson, you may not refer to the overall motorcycle by either of
>the terms "Harley-Davidson" or "Fat Boy."
>
>You are required to remove all references to Harley-Davidson and Fat Boy
>from the title and subtitle of this auction, and from the description
>except as described above. In order to effect these changes, it will be
>necessary for you to withdraw your auction and relist it in the "Custom"
>category. You should be aware that merely listing a motorcycle in the
>"Harley-Davidson" category on eBay automatically inserts "Harley-Davidson"
>into the title.
>
>Please note that if you do not make the required changes voluntarily, it
>will be necessary for Harley-Davidson to ask eBay to terminate the auction
>involuntarily, which could affect your ability to trade on eBay.
>
>Please notify me when the required changes have been made.
>
>Judy Henslee
>Trademark Manager
>Harley-Davidson Motor Company"
>Pretty sad in my book. I simply described my bike using the term "fatboy", as that is the style bike it is.
>
>--------------------
>
>
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Leeaw
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikerdude,

Not seeing your auction listing, I think they fairly presented you with an option to alter your listing to comply with their trademark rights.

But if you only listed it as being a "Fatboy style" bike, and made it clear that it was not a HD product, then it is a bogus attempt to justify the insanely high prices people pay for HD.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikerdude2,

What does this have to do with the page topic?

It seems to me HD is giving you an opportunity to correct your misleadingly characterized auction. If the bike isn't a Harley, it shouldn't be listed as one. What exactly is your bike? Was it ever a Harley, or is it a complete aftermarket clone?

I applaude Ms. Henslee for at least giving you the chance to correct your mistake. In the past she was known to simply have the auction terminated with no advance notice. My view of the company has just been changed for the better. Kudos to Ms. Henslee for having the consideration to let you know in advance that your auction violates HD trademark rights.

You are wrong in this case. It's just that simple.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never go to Hawg Quarters in Redford Michigan unless you need parts and know what you need. My buddy Joe went there to get his bike "dyno tuned" , They procedeed to drill a hole in his new supertrap exhaust (that they didn't need to do) ripped apart his carb and totaly threw out everything that was done to it, ie adjustable needle and throttle slide that was drilled to spec And to top it all off they mared his orange frame. And had the nerve to tell him the new pipe with only 30 miles on it "might be bad"
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Bikerdude2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"It seems to me HD is giving you an opportunity to correct your misleadingly characterized auction. If the bike isn't a Harley, it shouldn't be listed as one. What exactly is your bike? Was it ever a Harley, or is it a complete aftermarket clone?

I applaude Ms. Henslee for at least giving you the chance to correct your mistake. In the past she was known to simply have the auction terminated with no advance notice. My view of the company has just been changed for the better. Kudos to Ms. Henslee for having the consideration to let you know in advance that your auction violates HD trademark rights.

You are wrong in this case. It's just that simple. " Actually it's not that simple... While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Never did I state it was a Harley, nor did I try to pass it off as a Harley. You simply assumed it was misleading.. I just figured it was information that should be passed on to Anyone who ownes a Harley motorcycle and hotrods it. Perhaps you missed the point of my post...say you buy a new Buell, and hot rod it up to 145hp...you then decide you might be better off with a 6 speed tranny... Does the fact that you replaced the tranny with an aftermarket tranny suddenly mean it's no longer a Buell? Hmmm....food for thought I think...
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 03:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Quote:

Never did I state it was a Harley, nor did I try to pass it off as a Harley


So you think that listing a bike for sale in the "Harley-Davidson" section of eBay which then automatically titles your auction as a "Harley-Davidson" motorcycle is not stating that your bike is a "Harley-Davidson"? If so, you need to get real.

I agree that simply hot rodding the engine and adding a new tranny, in my view, should not preclude maintaining the original trademarked moniker of the bike when reselling it.

But you have yet to answer my question...

What exactly is the history/origin of your bike? Sounded to me like it is a total clone. According to Judy "your motorcycle was assembled in its entirety by someone other than Harley-Davidson, using a frame also made by someone other than Harley-Davidson." Why not list your auction's text? You felt obliged to share Ms. Henslee's letter, you need to come clean on your auction if you want any credibility on this issue.

I don't think you will find much solace from anyone on this issue. HD was considerate and acted in good form by ASKING you to correct your infringement on their trademark rights. I'll say it again, it's very simple, you are wrong on this issue. You may not like it, but HD has acted with consideration and in good faith on this issue. That didn't used to be the case. I'm glad to see that they have changed their operational demeanor.

The case to which I refer is documented here.. If you read my posts there, you will see that I and others were quite adamant in criticizing Judy's heavy handed action. Apparently she took our criticism to heart.
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Bikerdude2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Vehicle Description"
" 1998 Ultra Legacy. Over $25,000 invested. All top shelf parts. All S&S 96 inch motor, close ratio 5 speed tranny, polished tranny case, custom marblized paint, Custom wheels, extra chubby pull back drag bars with 8 inch risers, gel insert seat, new Mikuni 42mm carb, new shocks, new forward controls, new V&H straightshot pipes, new front tire, etc. Just about 10,000 miles. This bike is super reliable. I recently took a 1600 mile weekend trip and this bike didn't miss a beat. If your looking for a bike, why spend $18,000 just to add thousands more to make it look different than everyone elses and run the way a motorcycle should run? This bike turns heads, and has power to spare. My loss is your gain. Here's a chance to get a custom hotrod softail much less. Inspections available to anyone interested at my home. Possible partial/even swap for Buell, Evo dresser, or other swingarm framed Evo big twins. Muscle cars considered also. Feel free to ask any questions. I reserve the right to end the auction for a local sale, or the right cash offer. I won't reveal my reserve, but I will say it is lower than blue book. Thanks for looking." Once again, you have a right to your opinion, as I do mine. While we can choose to disagree on that issue, do you think it's fair if you bought a 2001 Twin cam, replaced the tranny with a Superior aftermarket tranny, and suddenly lost the ability to sell your motorcycle as a Harley Davidson? The bike would be a Harley Frame, Engine, wheels, sheetmetal, electrical, etc., be titled and insured as a Harley, but you would still be prevented from selling it as a Harley? Thats what really scares me. I'm interested to hear your thoughts..
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Blake
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BD2,


I'm with you as far as the moco's restrictive interpretation of a bonafide "Harley-Davidson" goes. I think it's ridiculous that if an owner replaces the tranny or cases with aftermarket replacements that he/she no longer owns a Harley. Especially the tranny issue, that's just plain silly.

So did you move your auction or what?
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Bikerdude2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I agree that simply hot rodding the engine and adding a new tranny, in my view, should not preclude maintaining the original trademarked moniker of the bike when reselling it." Sorry, I see you already answered my question. Thank you for including the link to previous discussions. I'm curious as to what the Company would think of my 2 other bikes...a 1974 Ironhead Sportster, number matching cases and frame, with a bolt on plunger rear, and a 1997 Sportster, number matching cases and frame, with a Axtell 88 inch kit...
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Bikerdude2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Blake. I ended the auction early, and haven't decided if im going to relist it or not. Seeing how Harley is trying to control how you can customize your motorcycle, I may keep it now just so I can say I don't own a Harley..
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, that tranny thing is BS, especially in a Sportster. If I replaced the gears in my truck with a set of Richmond gears, is it still a Chevy?
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