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     Davolous |
I have been spending all my money on toys for my Ulysses. This topic is regarding my installing the electrical components mainly my Garmin Zumo 550 and my heated suit. I might possibly add some lights to the mix in the future. Keep in mind I am no expert, but I trust my work over a Tech who doesn't care about me or my bike Question 1: What is the hanging out on the right side just under the saddle for? <a href="http://Davolous/Motorcycle/07_08_BuellUpgrades.html">See Pictures</a> Question 2: There are two fuses the Buell Uylsses owner's manual says are spares. Does spares means just a fuse holder or can I hook my extra electronics items in here? See Pictures http://www.davolous.com/motorcycle/07_08_BuellUpgrades.html (Message edited by davolous on March 02, 2008) | ||
| Froggy |
1, There are 2 ports hanging out the side of the bike, I believe that the one on the left is for connecting a battery tender, while the one on the right is for plugging in to the ECM to run diagnostics / ECMspy. 2, They are spare fuses like in car so that if one blows, you might just be able to swap it with a spare to get you home. | ||
| Davolous |
Thanks for the quick response Froggy. So neither of them will help me in my quest of wiring in my GPS or Heated Suit. (Message edited by davolous on March 02, 2008) | ||
| Froggy |
They make heated suits that will use the trickle charger port, but what i did was just got a heated jacket, it came with a thing you just bolt onto the battery terminals. Works fine for me. For the GPS you can tap into the wires behind the cigarette outlet up in the flyscreen. They are keyed to turn off with the bike. Its all fused and ready to go. | ||
| Froggy |
This was the jacket: http://www.harley-davidson.com/mcm/mcm_product.jsp ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441815147&FOLDER%3C%3Ef older_id=2534374302285475&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2 534374302285475&bmUID=1204508284742&bmLocale=en_US Came with this connecting harness that goes right on the battery, i got the wire hanging out the side: http://www.harley-davidson.com/mcm/mcm_product.jsp ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442063485&FOLDER%3C%3Ef older_id=2534374302285475&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2 534374302285475&bmUID=1204508316695&bmLocale=en_US I believe this is what you want to connect to the trickle charger port: http://www.harley-davidson.com/mcm/mcm_product.jsp ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448764484&FOLDER%3C%3Ef older_id=2534374302285475&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2 534374302285475&bmUID=1204508316711&bmLocale=en_US | ||
| Gotj |
Froggy wrote: "For the GPS you can tap into the wires behind the cigarette outlet up in the flyscreen. They are keyed to turn off with the bike. Its all fused and ready to go." On the other hand, you may not want the Zumo to turn off with the key. If you want the Zumo to stay current with trip data, it could be on the backup battery quite a bit. Many of us wire our GPSs directly to the battery. | ||
| Davolous |
Thank you again, Froggy! I would not have thought to wire my GPS to outlet, and that will make things a lot easier. As for the heated gear: I was actually looking at FirstGear Heated Liner and Carbon Heated Gloves. http://www.firstgear-usa.com/fgweb2.nsf/Products/B DE81FA82FD049C086257340005D8A7F?opendocument I have not actually mailed the check yet, but I have spoke to a Salesman and he's expected me to mail it out around monday. Now I am thinking I'll just adapt the suit wiring to use a Rat Shack cig. plug. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?parent Page=search&summary=summary&cp=&productId=2062263& accessories=accessories&kw=car+dc+power+plug&techS pecs=techSpecs¤tTab=techSpecs&custRatings=cu stRatings&sr=1&features=features&origkw=car+DC+pow er+plug&support=support&tab=custRatings | ||
| Davolous |
Gotj, If I shut of my Zumo will it kill a trip plan? Even if I used an SD card to transfer it from my Lap Top to my Zumo? Thanks! | ||
| Gotj |
You won't lose your trip plan, just some of the interesting trip info such as travel time, time stopped, driving time, average speed, etc. The route itself will pick up when you turn it back on. | ||
| Towjam |
There are 2 ports hanging out the side of the bike, I believe that the one on the left is for connecting a battery tender, I'm assuming the battery tender port is not a factory feature but an aftermarket add-on. Correct? Or does the Uly actually come with a tender connection? | ||
| Wademan |
The Zumo has a battery and will prompt you when it senses a loss of power if you would like to keep it on and run off the battery before it shuts off. A 30 second timer also comes up so if you dont respond and say 'yes, remain ON and run off of the unit battery' in 30 seconds it will shut itself off. Clear as mud? | ||
| Froggy |
Towjam, its factory installed, it sticks out on the left side of the bike under the seat. Click the link in the first post, there is a picture of it. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Towjam, its factory installed It's dealer installed. Mine didn't come with one. | ||
| Towjam |
Towjam, its factory installed, it sticks out on the left side of the bike under the seat. Click the link in the first post, there is a picture of it. yeah - saw it but didn't know it was a stock item. I don't remember seeing any mention of it in Buell's marketing docs or magazine reviews. (I hope the XTs come with it.) | ||
| Jackbequick |
Froggy, On the spare fuses, on my M2 the spare fuses had a short loop of white wire from one contact to the other. And the loop of wire was just was just tucked down into the wiring harness on the back of the fuse holders. In principle, to use one of those spares, you would have to fish that wire out and clip it, then connect one end to the power source (the battery or another hot wire) and the other would go to the load. Since you have 10A and 15A spares the latter may have heavier gage wire on it to support a heavier load. On the two cables you have links to above, the second one should not be connected to a "trickle charger port", it is for connecting the jacket to the first cable you link to. If you plug that second cable into a trickle charger connector, the exposed tip on the plug will be "hot" (12V +) can short out against things and blow fuses. That second cable has the plug on it for connecting to the jack (the one with the little protective cap on it) on the cable in your first link. And the other end, the "SAE connector", would connect to a matching connector on the jacket. Davolous, The First Gear jacket (65 or 90 watts) and gloves (30 watts for the pair) you are looking at would draw a total of 95 or 125 watts. At 125 watts that works out to 10 Amps at 12.8 volts so you could, at least in theory, run those off of the DC outlet if that is fused at 10 Amps. Jack | ||
| Davolous |
Well I snipped off the battery leads and stuck them in a Cig. power plug. Then I tested it out and my heated jacket and glove work. The process was super simple. (I did not try wiring them to the battery first so I could compare, but I should have.)    | ||
| Jackbequick |
Have you tried the gloves in the cold yet? I've been thinking about those, I sort of like the concept of having more than the palms and inside of the fingers warmed. Do the gloves have warming elements in each finger and on the backs of the hand? Jack | ||
| Davolous |
I just plugged them in will standing my my garage yesterday. I wanted to road test them today but I had a long day and a long driveway covered in snow. I only heated them up for a couple minutes, so I might be able to tell you more if I get my bike out over the weekend. The heating element only seemed to be on the back of my hands and each finger (although I can not remember if the thumb heated or not). The gloves warmed up super quick. In my garage with no wind I had to turn the temp down on the glove's Heat-Troller to keep my hands from getting too sweaty, while the jacket I was running just about max. I was more impressed with the heat in the gloves then the jacket liner, but the heat is more focused and actually touching my skin. | ||
| Jackbequick |
Yeah, let us know how they work. My thumb seems to need more heat than my fingers and the little finger more than the others. I think it all relates to the size and blood flow in each. For my ATV when I'm plowing, I wear mittens as having all four fingers in a shared space works best. My throttle thumb suffers a little through. I still would prefer a twist grip on a ATV but it was a very expensive conversion. Jack | ||
| Davolous |
So right after I finished writing my last entry. After I finished I walked out of my office to find my dog eating one of my new gloves.  The thumb is heated like all the other fingers.  Well I told my Sales what had happened he was nice enough to give $60 off the second pair, and shipped them to me over night. At least the dog ate the glove without the little wiper blade, which I figure will be the first thing to wear out on the glove. So now I have a spare. Yes my dog is still alive, before anyone asks! | ||
| Dennis_c |
WHY ???????  | ||
| Davolous |
lol... Dennis I finally got the the gloves and jacket out today (in Ohio it was between 34 and 42 degrees F). At first I set it too high, and I was starting to sweat a bit. So I set it a little low, and it was great until I got on the freeway doing about 70. Then there was a couple spots that were a little cold. For the most part when I had the temp set right I could hardly tell it was cold out. I did have a couple problems: 1. I've never wear thick glove and I'm not used to the lack of mobility. 2. Inside the liner First Gear uses zip ties to hold wires in place, and they tend to have sharp ends that can poke you a bit. (I am going to try putting electrical tape over the sharp ones.) 3. I had a lot of trouble with my helmet fogging up. (Time for a new anti-fog lens or anti-fog spray.) 4. My wife was upset because I was having so much fun my 20 minute test turned into a 4 hour ride. I guess she had other plans for me. The jacket I had on over the heated liner was comparable to a thicker High School Letterman's jacket. I think with a good leather or riding jacket I would get better performance out of my heated liner. I am considering mounting the Heat-Troller (controller) on my handlebars. Having it's adjustments easily to get to would make the suit a lot more comfortable. It's really hard to adjust a portable on in your pocket while going down the road. Over all I was very impressed. | ||
| Longdog_cymru |
FWIW, I wired my Zumo 550 and my Gerbing heated jacket directly to the battery terminals. I'll have to employ a little more finesse when I fit my Poly Heaters though! Probably hook them into the accessory outlet up front. | ||
| Davolous |
Someday I might buy my wife a heated jacket liner, and if I do I will buy a new heat-troller for me. The new troller I would mount on my handle bars and wire it directly to the battery or the fusebox. As for the Zumo 550 I haven't installed it yet, and haven't decided for sure were I want to put it. I'm still considering making a cig. plug for it, because it's fast and easy to remove. I still like the idea of wiring it to the back of the plug, and directly to the battery. Every possible way of connecting it has advantages. I'm hoping to do something with it sometime this coming week or so. | ||
| Nav18tor |
Heated grips on the 08 save a lot off aggro... Zumo 550 wired to battery, sorted |
