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Elpanameno
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My girlfriend is a 98 M2 and it always pukes a lot. Mostly white stuff with about the thickness of a quarter of oil floating on the top. I just rode back from daytona to palm harbor (160 miles) and the breather tube catch can is full of oil (couple shot glasses worth). only a tiny bit of white(condensation).

I know that these things dont like to be filled quite as high as the marker indicates. My dipstick doesnt even touch the oil right now but i can see the oil level when i lift off the cap. I have probably put 400 miles on this bike since I bought it and never had this type of result in the catch can.

I guess I'm just wondering if i should be alarmed or what and if anyone has any ideas whats going on or how to fix it? Bike has been nothing but a pain since i bought it (just like a girlfriend). About to redo the top end on it if I don't get some suggestions but i would really prefer not to eventhough im sure it would run 100X stronger since its never been done (guessing about 12,000 miles on the bike since it doesn't have any gauges).

Fortunately, I have a 2000 m2 as well so I can alternate while this one is down if the news i get is bad.

Appreciate your input. Thanks
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Wolf102
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

are you sure its moter oil and not primary fluid.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the oil line from the pump back to the tank ok?
If it has a kink, the oil might not be pumped out of the engine fast enough.

I would suggest that you pop off the breather tube from the catch can and run the engine.
Watch the hose for smoke and put your finger over the end of the tube to see how much volume of air is coming out.
If you have smoke coming out of the breather, it might be time for some rings.
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Elpanameno
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not sure that its not primary fluid. How would I be able to tell?

I will also try natexlh1000's suggestion about checking for a kink and popping the breather tube
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Jos51700
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would only be primary oil if the tranny vent is routed to said catch can.

Do a compression, AND leak-down test, before performing unnecessary top-end work.

Diagnosis is good!
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this thread is sooo wrong...

BUT keep an eye on your primary fluid level you may have blow or a leaky main seal...
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Elpanameno
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jos51700 How do i perform a compression and leak down test? Any online resources?
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Jos51700
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The text is a bit technical here, but it is a good explanation. Basically, a leak-down test is pumping air into the motor, and seeing if the cylinders are air-tight. If not, you'll know where, and can fix the parts that need it, with out fixing parts that don't.

Compression is an "overall" approach. Like your regular checkup at the doctor, it will tell you IF something's wrong, but not WHAT.

Before I forget, pull your dipstick out when performing a leakdown test. If the rings are leaking, the excess crankcase pressure will blow the 'stick, and oil, everywhere. A great party trick, but not cool at home.

http://www.xs11.com/tips/misc/misc3.shtml
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Elpanameno
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

too bad i dont own an air compressor.
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Old_mil
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...are you sure you're not going to wake up and find twin Buell Blasts in your garage 9 months from now?
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Elpanameno
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont know what that is supposed to mean? that one of my cylinders on each bike will blow?

are you speaking from a personal experience or something?
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Igneroid
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont know what that is supposed to mean? that one of my cylinders on each bike will blow?

are you speaking from a personal experience or something?


I think, seeing the title that YOU gave this thread, he means your bike is "knocked up".....I laffed my ass off when I read it.......
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Elpanameno
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry man... been a little annoyed lately with all the bike problems and didnt get the joke.

My bad.
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