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Doerman
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 12:44 pm: |
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This is just an FYI and I just wanted to share what I have found out about a slight oil weep coming from the center knob on the clutch side (see picture - little blue line pointing to it)
I discussed this with the mechanic at the dealer and he told me it was due to hard down shifting (when the slipper clutch is working hard). When working the slipper clutch hard the pressure gets released. It makes sense since I was banging through a canyon pretty hard when I discovered it. Just an FYI for the rest of you. Cheers, Asbjorn |
Krassh
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 12:56 pm: |
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Sweet thanks for the heads up. |
No_rice
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 01:10 pm: |
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dumping out you fluids on the ground/tire doesnt seem like the way the factory would design it to release pressure though? |
Doerman
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 01:30 pm: |
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What comes out of there Tim is very minuscule amount. It barely makes the surface wet and would not reach other components from what I have seen. |
No_rice
| Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 11:34 pm: |
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ah, i see. to much and that could turn out bad. |
Sheridan_bueller
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 03:59 am: |
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Thanks Asbjorn! I just noticed this very condition the other day and was a little worried. Got the chance and a warm, sunny day (the first half of one anyway) last Friday so me and some friends carved a canyon, it all makes sense now. Wasn't there before and hasn't been there since. My heart is now at ease. Just about to take the thing apart to see what was wrong. There is a weep hole just under the case slider. This made me think that it was an 'Oh shit' hole so you'd notice a ruptured diaphragm or something like that. Wheeew, thanks again for the nifty piece of info. JJ |
Sheridan_bueller
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 04:01 am: |
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Oh, there wasn't enough weepage to do any more than make a sticky streak on the side cover. No drips or anything like that. I just saved a bunch of money by looking at Badweb!!!!! JJ |
Bearly
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 04:41 am: |
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Doerman, I keep reading this over and over. What your mechanic told you just doesn't sound right. I mean well, it's amazing that he knows that. HOW would he know that? Seems to me that assembly is working anytime the engine is running and you pull the clutch in. That same diaphragm is used to reduce the clutch lever required pressure while up shifting. (err, I think) Hey what do I know, I don't have a manual either nor do I know that much about the bike to begin with. The only thing I've done is taken the wheels off. I'm trying to understand what he told you. Thanks for pointing that out however. That's most helpful to be able to watch for these things. That picture is a little small for me to see. is it leaking right at the bottom of the clutch cover or out of the center past those two "O" rings?
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Doerman
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 11:04 am: |
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Hi Bearly, Glendale HD&B have had two mechanics at school. Plus they have had a lot of conversations with Buell regarding 1125Rs since: 1) Working on Interex2050's bike 2) Prepping an 1125R for competition So I trust them, but I didn't ask any further questions regarding how come and all that. |
Kravfighter
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 11:56 am: |
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Buells, HDS don't leak, they mark their territory! |
Donutclub
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 12:03 pm: |
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I'm not buying that the bike was designed like that. I haven't experienced the issue yet, but if I do, then it's going back to the Dealer. |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 12:27 pm: |
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Personally, I have more of an issue with the radiator dripping on the muffler periodically. I don't see this as an issue, it's not a leak... You're gonna get a lot more road grime than this will add up to. Z |
Sheridan_bueller
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 04:12 pm: |
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Nice pic Bearly. The Orings look like they'd seal the vacuum chamber to me. It doesn't look like there should be oil on this side of the diaphragm. The weep hole, just visible on the bottom, looks like it will drain whatever gets past the center bolt. If the Orings on the (slave cylinder?) sprung a leak, it would be sucked into the vacuum chamber. This is my speculation from looking at Bearly's pic. I don't have a manual yet either so I don't know for sure. Asbjorn's explanation makes sense to me. I have lots of road grime Zac. Gotta give my baby a bath! So much rain, so freekin much rain... JJ |
Bearly
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 10:01 am: |
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Thanks Johnny, it's the only picture I have of the area, and it's slightly blurred in the area we are studying. I see the weep hole. I know that O rings are going to let a little oil buy now and then if the roll or they have debris on them. I assume (ASS U ME) that the area outside of the piston needs a breathing hole to allow free movement of the piston behind that cap that covers the area. I humbly also asssssume that oil dripping out of that area would be in the bad category. Some where this hole would serve as an indicator of a problem with the o rings. So I guess it will be like my shifter seal and Clutch cable seal on my Uly. It will weep just a wee bit, then it will start to flow and let you know that there is a problem? legal notice All highly speculative. All views here are the sole guess of Bear B. Lemley. All statements are fictional in nature until proven otherwise by a higher authority and have no basis in fact. Statements above do not represent the opinions of Buell Motorcycles USA, WWW.BadWeatherBikers.Com or any one else that could take litigation against me. All statements will be retracted immediately upon the slightest opinion from anyone else to the contrary and Bear will be held harmless against all verbal and physical abuse by Badweb members and Buell Motorcycles USA staff and employees. I'm not worthy. |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 11:09 am: |
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Nice mea culpas Bear... Z |
Ponti1
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 11:48 am: |
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legal notice All highly speculative. All views here are the sole guess of Bear B. Lemley. All statements are fictional in nature until proven otherwise by a higher authority and have no basis in fact. Statements above do not represent the opinions of Buell Motorcycles USA, WWW.BadWeatherBikers.Com or any one else that could take litigation against me. All statements will be retracted immediately upon the slightest opinion from anyone else to the contrary and Bear will be held harmless against all verbal and physical abuse by Badweb members and Buell Motorcycles USA staff and employees. I'm not worthy. Dammmm....I wish you could set up a signature on BadWeb. I would put something exactly like this. |
No_rice
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 01:03 pm: |
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lol that is pretty funny. although i dont worry about that stuff. if someone wants to sue me for the pot i have to piss in, thats fine. i can always piss on their floor instead! |
Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 02:39 pm: |
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Good disclaimer. Shouldn't there be a "save harmless" clause somewhere in there? Dave |
Doerman
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 04:08 pm: |
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Should be, but maybe Bearly isn't harmless? On a different note.. Somehow weep of oil has become "leak" as this thread has moved along. In my case it is not a leak it is just a mist just under the vent hole in the center "knob thingy" (that's a highly technical term). |
Ccryder
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 04:25 pm: |
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Maybe the reason there is a "vent hole" at that location is......... it needs to vent on occasion. (Not too unlike some of our fellow Buelligans, myself included.) Just a mist might be acceptable. If it really was dripping or shooting out the vent hole then, we would have to re-evalulate it's name and the condition. Thank you for trying to regain some perspective on this venting. Later Neil S. |
Sheridan_bueller
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 04:46 pm: |
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Damn, now I must take it apart to see what it's all about... If I may, insert Bearly's disclaimer below... Nice one... If I do take it apart, I'll let y'all know what I find and perhaps a pic or two. JJ |
Spatten1
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 05:03 pm: |
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I can't understand what you guys are referring to in the picture but: Diaphragms normally have vacuum or pressure on one side and atmospheric pressure on the other side. Could the "weep" hole just be the vent on the atmosphere side of the diaphragm? |
Doerman
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 05:06 pm: |
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That's correct, Scott |
Krassh
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 05:37 pm: |
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But no one wants to assimilated, they are not listening. Started out as an FYI thread and i am not sure what it has turned into... |
Bearly
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 11:10 pm: |
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That's the ticket Johnny, makes one want to take it apart to see what's going on. I would settle for a service manual though. This might be obvious to some, but I guess there is crankcase air and oil on the inside of the big diaphragm and of course manifold "pressure" or vacuum on the outboard side. So the misting out of the hole might be just some remnant lubricant for the double "o" ringed piston? Probably no harm "attall" in anomalous lubricant. Information it IS! Thanks again Doerman. The rest of this thread is probably due to bad weather or being stuck at work. |
Sheridan_bueller
| Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:00 am: |
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Bearly, it's a curse really. Always have to tear stuff apart to see what makes it tick. Been trying really hard not to on the 25R, so far so good. Reeeeally want a good book to read first. (service manual). I'm doing my best to wait for it. Sorry for whackin' out the thread... What Doerman wrote up top makes perfect sense to me. I should have left it at that. JJ |
Sportshaft
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 09:30 pm: |
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i dont think it has anything to do with hard downshifts while running fast cause mine does it at speed on the hi-way and at moderate running in the city as the bike is new to me and the previous owner neglected to mention any quirks for obvious reasons i wonder if the fluid level will go down and leave me stranded? so far i really like the bike and hope i can get it sorted i think this is the type of machine that you gotta learn to work on yourself (i need a manual)cause the guys at the HD shops for the most part seem to know shit! john c |
1125rcya
| Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 05:56 pm: |
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I was told by HD it was the dip stick leaking lol you can clearly see its coming from that stupid little hole not the puck. |