| Author | Message | ||
     Hexangler |
http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks | ||
| Hexangler |
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| Hexangler |
If this was a 2nd Amendment issue, you guys would be all over it. | ||
| Spiderman |
Sooo let me get this straight. This sight allows you to post documents regarding nation security and the like with no way to trace it back to the submiter? | ||
| Darthane |
I think it's more along the lines of "...documents regarding anything you like, regardless of the legality or morality..." | ||
| Cityxslicker |
If you think the NSA will allow that, you have a distinct lack of understanding of how that agency and national security work. | ||
| Hexangler |
I knew nothing about this site until it was shut down a couple of days ago. Now I've read a bit, and I am just interested in the censorship of the www in various countries. According to their statistics, we have it pretty good here in the US. Counterpoint, let's see, recent beef recalls prompted by eco spy, NYTimes publishes leaks all the time and protects their sources, etc. why is wikilinks being singled out? Can the internet be censored or is internet censorship impossible? Interesting to me that's all. | ||
| Choptop |
Wikileaks is developing an uncensorable system for untraceable mass document leaking and public analysis. hmmm, are you SURE the site isnt RUN by the NSA?  | ||
| Court |
>>>>>Can the internet be censored or is internet censorship impossible? I found out, quite to my amazement, in 2002 that some agency certainly has access to all your e-mails. I had a project (Times Square Tower - new 42 story building - 42nd and Broadway - center of Times Square) that we were building. My Foreman's name was xxxx BOMBadier. Not long after I'd generated a bunch of e-mails with the word BOMBadier and Times Square in them I was contacted. Word searches are another thing. This, in combination with the 3 Anti-Terrorism people who followed me for 3 months (we had a little problem with a camera being reported protruding from a truck window) and appeared on my doorstep and the night the New Jersey Organized Crime Task Force appeared at 11:00PM declaring "we know you know something" were enough to make me a little shaky. Fortunately . . . I knew nothing and could prove it. Choose your words carefully in e-mail. | ||
| Hammeroid |
What, no black helicopters? psstt. | ||
| Court |
Nope . . . and frankly, as I told the guys. . . I was thrilled that folks who "See something say something" and that they follow up so vigilantly. After he produced the 8"x10" glossy of my DL photo and the 1/2" folder or my comings, goings and cellphone bills . . . . I said "dull life, huh?" They were laughing as they left. My wife was not.  | ||
| Reepicheep |
Email is trivial to intercept as a general rule. There are ways to make it really hard to get, but I am not going to tell you what they are As Court observed though, cryptographic obstacles are only as strong as soft pink flesh and weak human nature. I think the CIA ended up waterboarding a total of about 5 enemy combatants as a result of the entire 9/11. Some of them were *serious* tough guys, and lasted almost 9 minutes before spilling everything. The rest were just about average, and made it through about 3 minutes. | ||
| Hexangler |
>>>>>>>>Choose your words carefully in e-mail. And in phone conversations. Have you ever called FedEx to process a shipment? You basically talk to the computer and it talks back and gets all the information to get the order placed. I know FedEx computers are toys in some peoples books. Funny Court's experience of misinterpretation. Also Google (and probably all search engines) monitor the forums. If you have a unique user name here on BadWeB, just type it into google sometime and see all the posts you have ever written, including your user profile. We live in a very public world these days. ...and that's why I like riding my Buell. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
>> We protect your identity while maximizing political impact << I believe this statement from the website says it all. Gotta beef? Post your anonymous crap on our board about your target, and we'll make sure that no one knows who sent it. We'll also claim no liability for erroneous defamation of character or libel. "We didn't post it. It was an anonymous poster." | ||
| Spiderman |
I hope that site gets shut down. It isn't censorship to shut up a bunch of whiney brats who want to get even anonymously. I remember my grand-pa telling me a very important phrase from WW2 "Loose lips, sink ships!" Have some personal accountability and don't be a wanker! | ||
| M1combat |
Yeah... we would be all over it if it was a 2nd amendment issue. That's because the second amendment guarantees all the other ones. | ||
| Hattori_hanzo |
What, no black helicopters? psstt. I've got the aluminum foil for the brain scan protective skull caps! | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Collecting information is not the problem. The technology exists to read information right off your computer screen from a distance. The problem lies with determining what information is pertinent. | ||
| Choptop |
i can only PRAY that someone is reading all my email, tracking my credit card purchases, watching what websites I visit... I want someone to wonder... can any one person consume that much porn, ammo, alcohol, ammonium perchlorate, motor oil, 103 octane gas, tires... That being said... anyone that has any doubt that Big Brother is watching you, I suggest you read "The Puzzle Palace", a history of the NSA. Communications in the US have been intercepted since WWII. Voice recognition has been around since the 60's. Yer phones have been tapped for a LONG time. Major corporations have been complicit in all of this in exchange for major contracts. its not all conspiracy theory stuff either. There is hard proof of such. I've even seen the back end of it. My father worked for Western Union for 30 years in some VERY sensitive positions. You'd be amazed. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Makes me glad I don't do anything important. Hell, most of the stuff I do isn't even interesting enough for *me* to see it through to the end! | ||
| Court |
The whole "intel" thing brings back found memories of my time with The White House (1983-1985). Our Advance Team would generally go to a city about 9 days in advance of Reagan or Bush's arrival. There were always, most the time we'd see them in at least the first site meeting, some guys who'd only job it was to immerse themselves in the local bar and bad guy scene and listen. I always figured. . . what a great job. . . spend the nights hanging out in sleazy places on the govt's nickel. . . do it for a week. . . go home for 2 days . . . go someplace else and repeat. I suppose these days that all you'd have to do is simply adjust the threshold level on some snooping software in advance of a trip. I lead such a dull like (of course, Sex Week 2008 is on the horizon in a few weeks at school) that I feel sorry for anyone having to monitor. . . | ||
| Gregtonn |
I think the CIA ended up waterboarding a total of about 5 enemy combatants as a result of the entire 9/11. Some of them were *serious* tough guys, and lasted almost 9 minutes before spilling everything. The rest were just about average, and made it through about 3 minutes. Three. Longest lasted just over one minute thirty seconds. Total time for all three was well under three minutes. | ||
| Mikej |
I suspect the pre-advance teams are still in the fields today. They don't like it when you say hi to them. | ||
| Court |
>>>They don't like it when you say hi to them. True that be . . . there are some photos posted in the My Hometown section I took of all the agents that night at Columbia. I walked up and asked "who's your principle?" and the guy looked amazed. When 12 guys in suits with earpieces stand in the middle of a college campus as 9:30pm, it's tough to hide. The folks they don't want you to see . . . you don't. I got my ass chewed once for being photographed (previously posted on badweb) with Reagan and having my lapel pin on. Funniest story was Bush leaving an embassy overseas and the headlines (loosely translated) "Bush Travels with Pack of Guerillas" had all of us coming down the stairs and circles around all of our heads. I felt kinda naked having only an earpiece and no weapon. Fun times. | ||
| Thespive |
Court, I would love to bend your ear sometime, not about Buells for a change, but your experiences in the White House... Second book maybe? I'll trade you some beers for some stories. --Sean | ||
| Hexangler |
Feb. 29, 2008 03:59 PM The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO - A federal judge who shuttered the renegade Web site Wikileaks.org has reversed the decision and will allow the site to re-open in the United States. U.S. District Court Judge Jeffrey White in mid-February issued an injunction against Wikileaks after the Zurich-based Bank Julius Baer accused the site of posting sensitive account information stolen by a disgruntled former employee. White set off storms of protest worldwide when he ordered the disabling of the entire site rather than issuing a narrowly tailored order to remove the bank's documents. White dropped the injunction Friday, citing First Amendment concerns and questions about legal jurisdiction. |
