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     Caféelite |
So there are like a lot of oil threads but this one I hope is a bit different... please dont flog me.. So its time to do a oil change in the crankcase and gear box (06 XB9 CityX). It just happens I have like OOOOO around 14 courts of Royal Purple Syn 20W50 w/ Synerlex(whatever that is) setting on my shelf.. My main question is more of oil shelf life? This stuff has been on my shelf for like a good 2 years.. well more like in a box in the corner of my garage. Still good to use? You are more then welcome to chim in and let me know if using Royal Purple 20W50 in my crankcase and gearbox is a good or bad choice... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I would not use the RP in the gearbox, as there is good chance it has friction modifiers, which adhere to metal as a last barrier against metal to metal contact. Reason being is that these can play havoc on your clutch. After playing around with synthetic gear lubes, I would recommend Syn3 or Formula + which are both readily available at your local HD shop. As far as the crankcase, RP should be fine. I really don't know about the shelf life, tho. Try an internet search if you haven't already. | ||
| Slaughter |
I've run RP in my engine but NOT in my primary. Different issues in wet clutch than in basic tranny like Fresnobuell (Harlan) just said. I've run RP on street and on the track. No problems but it's unscientific, I'm just saying that nothing broke. RP's tech support is pretty responsive too. | ||
| Ccryder |
Before you judge anybody's oil as compatable or not with the clutch, it's good to as them. Just from a quick overview I noticed that it was ok for transmissions. We need to investigate what they recommend. I have inquired so we should know in the next few hours/ days. Neil S. | ||
| Caféelite |
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_C are/AskMobil/Mobil1_Shelf_Life.aspx | ||
| Teeps |
Your "aged" Royal Purple should be fine to use in the engine. I would not use anything but H-D Formula + in the gear box. | ||
| Caféelite |
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html More oil info.. Again he says 4 to 5 years but more on the 3 year plan.. I think im good.  | ||
| Dynasport |
So there are like a lot of oil threads but this one I hope is a bit different... please dont flog me.. So its time to do a oil change in the crankcase and gear box (06 XB9 CityX). It just happens I have like OOOOO around 14 courts of Royal Purple Syn 20W50 w/ Synerlex(whatever that is) setting on my shelf.. My main question is more of oil shelf life? This stuff has been on my shelf for like a good 2 years.. well more like in a box in the corner of my garage. Still good to use? You are more then welcome to chim in and let me know if using Royal Purple 20W50 in my crankcase and gearbox is a good or bad choice... Just curious, like how old are you? | ||
| Caféelite |
*Sigh* about to rant.. apologize before hand.
You know I am always a bit surprised and annoyed to see someone ask this question w/o a reason. Does it really matter my age, especially when it comes to a internet based forum? Is there a specific reason my age matters in this case? Is my grammar or structure not up to your online standards? Are you mystified by my lack of oil knowledge? Etc.. etc.. etc.. How many oil threads are on this forum let alone the other many motorsport related sites? Trust me I searched this forum and didnt find what I wanted so I posted my question. My goal was to post my question w/o getting people in a flame war about oil but also adding a bit of lame humor (honestly who has 12qts of Royal purple in their garage for 2+ years). Granted I could just search the vendor sites or called but I was interested in the dirty garage knowledge contained in the head of a lot of the members on this site. Personally if you dont like the questions I post or the way I post please just dont respond or read them. If they offend you in a manner that you feel is outside the bounds of this forum please report them to a mod. BTW Im 28... and as you can tell this question is one of my top internet fouls. | ||
| Froggy |
Perhaps Dynasport was confused by your profile picture.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I believe it was a poke at the use of "like" as is the mode of those of the younger variety. I don't believe it was anything more than a friendly barb. I got the friendly tone of the original post as well as felt the "barb" was funny. I wouldn't take it personal Cafe. I don't think he was really bagging on you. As for the shelf life, I think you are fine. As long as the bottles are sealed, you should be fine. My rule of thumb is when in doubt, smell it. If it smells funky, don't use it. Works for milk, salad dressings, sushi, girlfriends, etc. Doesn't work for Formula+ or Mobil 1 gear oil. That stuff smells like crap all the time. | ||
| Cycleaddict |
i like it when people fill-out their profiles with important things like age occupation etc. (it helps you to have some idea of who your dealing with !) unless of course there is a "reason" to hide ?? | ||
| Tx05xb12s |
LOL! Cheer up buddy. He was just picking on you about the left-over 1980's Valley Girl impersonation. We of course accept all comers, but just have to pick on the guy that doesn't mind being a little different. Kudos to you; Joke 'em if they can't take a f**k. Know what I mean? Now fire back at him that you like his "paw-paw" bike pictured on his profile and let him know that you understand that they didn't talk like that back in the stone age, but you like him anyway. (-:  Good question though. I didn't know what the shelf life of RP was either. Now we all do thanks to you. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Jess It makes a difference to me. It makes a difference in my expectations and answer. Doesn't meaning anything is wrong but time has a way of changing things, I believe you will find out in about 30 years. I don't know if that makes any sense. Wish I was 28! As Philip said thanks to you I have learned something new. Joe (Message edited by bad_karma on February 19, 2008) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
FOr what it is worth, even if RP tells you it's okay (which is very possible as it's their product), I would strongly suggest you don't. The primary only takes a quart, so use the RP for your crankcase which takes 3 quarts or so IIRC. I made the mistake of using 2 separate synthetic gearlubes which adversely affected my clutch. I went back to Formula + with good results. Sometimes as much as we hate it, the manufacturers recommended fluid is the way to go. BTW, you had a very legitimate question. The big problem with the internet is that sarcasm and such is sometimes very difficult to pick up on--especially if you are not familiar with the other party. | ||
| Etennuly |
BS! Why did he dumb down his question using the wrong syntax and ask questions with two lies? One obvious, couldn't find the answer to "RP syn in the gear box". Come on, he said he looked in other oil threads. That is the most answered question out there. The other is his admitted lie about having "14 courts of RP syn" what ever. (honestly who has 12qts of Royal purple in their garage for 2+ years). Rocket got a new game?  | ||
| Msparks |
If your oil has been sitting be sure to shake it a bit, some times you can get some settling of additives. They really don't come out of suspension, but it's good to shake it anyhow. If the royal purple has JASO MA spec, then you can use it in the trans/primary too. If not just stick with it in the engine. | ||
| Caféelite |
I agree.. I just didnt see the humor in his post.. Obviously im still young enough where certain comments get me excited.. Its just that getting older takes time :P These oil threads can really get entertaining. Dynasport there are plenty of buells available out there if you interested in dumping that old man bike for something fun ;) Etennuly: I actually said "OOOOO around 14 courts" and in my book (which is very limited BTW) 12 is close to 14. So I dont know if I would classify that as a lie.. more like being lazy and not actually counting before I post. My primary question was "Shelf life of oil" not if RP is compatible in my gear box. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I didn't see the humor either. Your oil is fine. Use Formula + in your primary, regardless of what goes in the engine. | ||
| Roadkingtrax |
Old oil is better then no oil... | ||
| Starter |
Slippery oil is better than no oil. | ||
| Bcool83 |
How often should you change the primary oil? |
