| Author | Message | ||
     Chopped58 |
I forgot the name of the company Cycle electrics? | ||
| Saintly |
Yes, Cycle Electrics still makes them. There used to be a company called "Electric Franks" that made them also. Good stuff! | ||
| Interceptor |
The bike is practically together. When I went to see the bike , the guy had another parked next to and explained that he swapped the engines from each bike. I forget, but the other engine was some nicer, bigger thing. Guy said he couldn't take less than 7500. -I dont mind at all getting into the older engines, half the reason of buying it is to learn about them. bikes needs a coil, oil lines, throttle assembly and clutch lever, headlight switch, on/off switch, exhaust system, (Message edited by interceptor on February 13, 2008) | ||
| Mikej |
This guy wants $7,000 for a 1974 model: http://longisland.craigslist.org/mcy/566532771.htm l Maybe use this as a comparison. | ||
| Dfishman |
You can find good running shovels for under 7k.I've seen lots lately for 5k-6.5k.A rebuild can be 3k.So if your not able to do it yourself just keep this in mind.The flatside shovels are definately the better looking.I love the way they sound. By the way you guys posted some nice looking bikes. I always have to keep a rigid chop around for local riding.Nothing beats the feeling of hand jamming a rigid around town.But I am getting a little old for the long trips on them anymore. I ride the ULY & love the way it corners,eats up gravel roads,carries all my stuff,& generaly makes me smile,but I get on my sporty rigid & it makes me smile too! Good luck on your purchase.  | ||
| Dfishman |
You can find good running shovels for under 7k.I've seen lots lately for 5k-6.5k.A rebuild can be 3k.So if your not able to do it yourself just keep this in mind.The flatside shovels are definately the better looking.I love the way they sound. By the way you guys posted some nice looking bikes. I always have to keep a rigid chop around for local riding.Nothing beats the feeling of hand jamming a rigid around town.But I am getting a little old for the long trips on them anymore. I ride the ULY & love the way it corners,eats up gravel roads,carries all my stuff,& generaly makes me smile,but I get on my sporty rigid & it makes me smile too! Good luck on your purchase. | ||
| Saintly |
LOM | ||
| Saintly |
BTW, I agree with dfishman. $7K is steep for a suposedly rebuilt engine which was swapped out of another bike and that I presume is not currently running, on a bike that needs: re-wiring a coil oil lines throttle assembly clutch lever headlight switch on/off switch exhaust system and has an untested "new 4-speed" which may be aftermarket korean dai-wil or rev-tech crap. And you mentioned that its in a newer rigid frame. So it does'nt even have the value of a 1967 Harley duo-glide chassis. That's not a real enticing deal. (Message edited by saintly on February 13, 2008) | ||
| Chopped58 |
Dfishman,hm, have I seen that name on the Horse board? | ||
| Dfishman |
Yes,But not much anymore.......It is kinda watered down as of late. | ||
| Road_thing |
Here's mine:  rt | ||
| Saintly |
RT, That's beautiful! I see you ditched the banana's for some PM binders - good move. What's she about a 72' or 73' ? | ||
| Road_thing |
Thanks, Saintly! '73 is right--good eye! I've still got an issue with the front brake--I think the master cylinder on the bike is too big; the lever is rock solid, but doesn't seem to generate much pressure at the caliper. I've been too lazy to pull the MC apart to measure the bore, so I'm just trying to plan my stops carefully... My favorite riding accessory!  rt | ||
| Interceptor |
DFISHMAN, nice bike, I like how the bars are clean. I am going to try and have a friend of a friend check the bike out, I will snap a couple pics. | ||
| Bill0351 |
This thread has gotten me looking hard at shovelheads. I had no idea they had gotten so cheap. There's a really clean looking '83 FXSB for sale on the HD Forum classifieds for $6,000.00. It looks like a lot of fun. I doubt it could be any less reliable than my '06 Roadking was. It looks twice as cool, and it is less than half the price. Interceptor, did you make a decision yet on that '67 ? I was curious on how it was going to play out. Bill (Message edited by bill0351 on February 15, 2008) | ||
| Tunes |
I owned a Slab-Side Shovel for several years. I had to rebuild it first but it was running when I bought it. NO Shovel is worth 7K if it doesn't run cause you don't know what you're getting into... unless you have extra $ to burn, of course! :-) Even though the Slab-Side is a desirable model ('66 to '69), it's still an older design. In my opinion, I'd keep looking. | ||
| Interceptor |
Bill, I am going to check the shovelhead again tomorrow. I'm bringing my cousins friend who has a couple of older hardtails, I think a pan. I am told he knows his stuff. Tunes, I hear ya. Seller said that he would put on some exhaust and whatever to demo the engine. OK, side question here. I know that AMF took over Harley from '69 to '81. So are the engines from this period really a lot worse in quality? | ||
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| Interceptor |
 Just saw the bike again. Tranny is Harley, rebuilt. Stock cases. Engine rebuilt by reputable builder, 5k miles. Jesse James tank with custom fin/ridge. mild cams in the engine. Engine is shovel/shovel, not pan/shovel. very cool setup, I want it. | ||
| Ftd |
Shovelhead memories. I bought a 1982 FXE in July 1982 for $4500. Sticker was $6000 but HD offered $750 end of the year rebate and the dealer (Seminole HD) came down another $750. Those were the days. Of course in the back of my mind I wondered if the co. was going under. I freshened it up and sold it in 1997 for $7200 and bought a Bourget. It had 89,000 miles. Pictures are brand new on Daytona beach and then as sold. I miss that bike.     | ||
| Mikej |
"So are the engines from this period really a lot worse in quality?" My opinion, it's mostly politics and emotionalism. That bike, I'd probably put a primary cover back on it. Looks like they maybe just opened it up for looks. Seat cover, huh? I can see what they were trying to do, not sure if they got there though. I'd take it for a much lower price, but it probably wouldn't see the road for a year if I did get it. YMMV. | ||
| Saintly |
I can see what they were trying to do, not sure if they got there though. I'd take it for a much lower price, I agree 100% with Mike. It seems as though it's a mix of old style with new style. On one hand you've got a real nice generator/flatside/shovel engine with a 4-speed and open primary. But it's in a Swedish-style frame with a fat rear tire. I doesn't suit my tastes, but if it makes you grin, then that's what really matters. I would strongly try to get the price down though. In addition to all the things mentioned above which are missing from the bike, I see more stuff thats absent in those photos. 1. There's no front brake rotor or brake lines/hoses. 2. No air filter (a velocity stack doesn't cut it on the street) 3. No carb support bracket or throttle cable on that S&S Super E 4. No clutch release arm on the gearbox 5. No generator 6. No inner primary or at least a tranny mainshaft support plate. If you look behind the clutch basket between the two chains you can see the tranny case studs in the 3rd pic. 7. judging by the severe angle at which the forks are turned, (1st, 4th, & 5th pics) I'd say there is no fork stops. I'm not trying to burst your bubble, just trying to save you some grief, or give you bargaining leverage to haggle on price. If you can get it for $5500 - $6000 It would be a much better deal. And you'd have money left over to buy all the stuff to finish it. Good Luck! | ||
| Brumbear |
it looks like the carb is broken or something I got a magnifying glass cause my eyes stink anymore but the choke looks broken and somethings up with the idle screw I know it may be nothing but carbs can get expensive so you might want to look it over just my $.02 | ||
| Bill0351 |
 This was a recently closed auction on ebay. It might give you an idea what to offer for that one. This bike is a '77. It sold for $4,260.00 as a complete running bike. (Item number: 300195978455) Good luck with the project. Bill | ||
| Interceptor |
Saintly, oh yeah it makes me grin. I never had anything so cool. - comes with a front brake setup, I believe it comes with the gen., yes no fork stops. something I would have to do. -will keep ya'll posted | ||
| Dfishman |
Yeah but.............It's cool.If you buy a good runner & do all the chopping yourself.You will be more in love with YOUR bike.That price is high.I've had 2 "cool" bikes built by other people & something just wasn't right about it.That bike has a lot of loose ends.You could end up spending a lot of money to tidy it up. I say......build your own & ride it proud! | ||
| Chopped58 |
The open chain primary may look cool, but it will require oil, and between that and your final drive chain, you will be wearing quite a bit of oil (a stripe up your left side...ask me how I know...lol) after every ride. A belt conversion could be pretty pricey. Another thing I noticed, the gas tank, with the petcock in that location, and that angle, you will lose alot of usable fuel. I guess not a big deal if you ain't riding far, but if you plan to go anywhere....well it will suck. You can have the petcock moved to a more suitable location, but it costs a few bucks. There is definately a support bracket missing from the carb, and it looks like the carb has been stored outside for a year or twelve. (maybe just the pics, but I see rust) Guess I'm just nitpickin' but would like you to get the best deal possible. Just to backup what Dfishman said......my buddy paid 8300 for a 1968 shovel off of e-bay some years ago. Was in a rigid frame, fat bobs, jockey shift, with an su carb. Bike looked pretty cool, however, by the time he changed everything to meet his needs.....changed the tank, bars, carb, exhaust, paint, had the lower end redone, he ended up spending like 13000 for his shovel. He later traded it for a 197x stock shovel (maybe worth 5000?) and a couple of dollars. I paid 5000 for a 1958 Pan, running in an original 58 frame. (ok it was 10 years ago) but good deals can be had. | ||
| Tunes |
I'd offer $3500.00 tops... Very good bikes are out there for better $ and much less work (extra work too). | ||
| Tom_b |
I would look around more if you can't get for around it 4-5000. give it a while. rigid frame harleys are starting to take a dive in prices. Be patient and don't buy the first one one you fall for. That bike you posted above needs a lot of work to be a good rider. Chopped 58, Tunes and saintly have some good points. I can attest to the fact that an open unguarded primary is not good. i would rather buy the bike Bill 0351 shows and rattle can a paint job and change the seat(sorry bill that paintjob is not my cup of tea). the biek you posted just kinda has a half assed look about it. No offense meant |
