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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:39 pm: |
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"Looks like it was stolen from a cafe Sportster." ---------------------------------- "Cafe Sportster" ? Now that's an oxymoron! Dave |
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Bueller_bjorn
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:45 pm: |
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i like the sound but i need an under slug exhaust, that just looks completely out of place. but the pipe it self looks good quality just doesn't belong on a 1125 IMO. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:45 pm: |
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Not an oxymoron in MARKETING - but an oxymoron in REALITY. |
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Darkice19
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:49 pm: |
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Does it add more horse power on its own? I like the sound by the way but if it slows the bike down there is no way i would get one. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:51 pm: |
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Found a pic of a 78:
Nice idea... no interest outside of a small circle of Harley eccentrics. |
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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:06 pm: |
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"Black Rain", Michael Douglas, 1989 Black (Oxymoron) Cafe Sportster races Riceburner sportbike and........wins! Only in Hollywood! Back on topic: You will probably need an airfilter, an airbox mod?, & revised A/F ratio to complement the open exhaust. It's only money. Dave |
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Freezerburn
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:19 pm: |
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Sounds pretty good. A bit crisp for my taste, but would definitely make me look. The dyno looks weak but the curves look nice. Most stock RWHP numbers are closer to 130. Be nice to see the before numbers. |
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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:41 pm: |
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That IS the "before" baseline dyno graph. |
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Brad1445
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 03:41 pm: |
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I don't understand saying it does no match the bike, when the bike it's self is half newly designed and half 5 years old. Part thin, part fat. What are the rules. The 1125r scoop look? the firebolt tail look? or the factory deflated bagpipe exhaust. Most bikes I would agree that there is one set of lines or a theme that should be followed. If the 1125r has a single design theme then what is it? It some ways this looks more thought out then the factory pipe. |
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Zac4mac
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 03:48 pm: |
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It's the Chrome, Brad. Chrome look wrong on the 1125R, that's why the heatshield looks out of place until it's painted black. Z |
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Jos51700
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 03:48 pm: |
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The biggest part that didn't match, to me, was the chrome. I wouldn't judge the rest until that was ironed out. Either add chrome to the bike, or unchrome the pipe. If the owner likes it, then it's all good!!!!! |
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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 03:51 pm: |
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Here's the latest from Brock Davidson for the 2008 Busa. Note the similar style of the "Alien Head" can: http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockrac ing/Detail?no=1006 Dave |
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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 04:05 pm: |
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I like basic (goes with anything) black cans too. Very racerly and you don't have to polish it, just wash it. The D&D reverse cone megaphone has classic style. Reminds me of my 1970 Norton Commando. My riding buddy buddy, Thruxton John, has reverse cones mufflers on his new Triumph twin. Maybe it's a twin thing? Anyhow, it's a lot lighter than the stocker, must sound great, and that's good. Dave SVK with Scorpion race cans |
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Spectrum
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 04:10 pm: |
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You can say what you want about the stock look of the 1125R, but with the exception of the pods everything ties back to things consistent with previous Buell designs. My point about not being consistent with Buell designs was to me, the D&D pipe looks like it belongs on a Japanese bike not a Buell. |
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Ccryder
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 04:57 pm: |
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I had a Ducati 250 Diana MkIII with a factory reverse cone megaphone. One FINE sounding thumper!! Even back in the early 70's it attracted too much attention. My only saving grace is it had the Ducati stamp on it as being OEM. Well B4 sound regs. I only got one ticket for noise and it was thrown out because of the OEM stamp. Hmmm, sure wish I had that little single. Time4Home Neil S. |
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Ducxl
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 05:11 pm: |
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With apologies to the guy who designed the D&D,the engineered Buell can is more attractive.And likely makes MORE power.Noise is overrated. |
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Dave_bogue
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 05:50 pm: |
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"Buell can is more attractive.And likely makes MORE power.Noise is overrated." --------------------------- You may be right. A stealthy stock motorcycle has it's advantages. Stock exhaust systems typically provide a smooth and wide range of power and do not rile up the citizens as you ride through the neighborhood at supra-legal speeds. My ZX-10 is a good example. On the other hand, the sound of a V-twin is part of the fun of owning one. The V2 has history; it has charisma. T E Lawrence on his Brough Superior twin! I loved the way my hot rod Sportster sounded, but I wanted more performance so it had to go. I miss the Sportster, but I wanted V2 sound and high performance. Now Buell has given us an alternative. Life is good. Dave Bradenton Florida |
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Dtx
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 06:16 pm: |
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I think if it was black and completely underslung, it would look great! Kinda like the Force mega phone pipes. (Message edited by dtx on February 07, 2008) |
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Thespive
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:34 pm: |
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Dave and Slaughter, Guess that makes me a Harley eccentric. BTW, my Hot Rodded and 1250ed '04 Sporty plate read "HOTRD XL". --Sean |
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M1combat
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:59 pm: |
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Is that "Ho Turd" or "Hot Rod"? Just messin' with you ... |
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 08:26 pm: |
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Good effort, and kudos for the work...but it should stay under the bike. It's a Buell; that's where they *go*. I also wonder how long of a ride you could take before that sound got to bouncing around inside your helmet and driving you crazy. How many degrees of lean were lost before hard contact to the right with that? Why did it kick out that way, instead of just tucking it underneath and putting a turnout on it, not long enough to make power that way? This really says something for the stock pipe. Some may not like the way it looks (I do), some may not like the way it sounds (I do)...but you have to respect it for the way it works. I too will wait to see what Drummer comes up with, based on the stock can. Again, kudos for the work...but like many things, it's just not for me. |
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Xb9
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 08:41 pm: |
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If anyone can do it (right), Kevin can! |
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Dtx
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 08:44 pm: |
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Either way, there is a golden opportunity for an aftermarket supplier to make and sell lots of cans! |
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Rainman1ne
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:03 pm: |
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The shorter it was the less power it put out, its not chrome its polished stainless. THIS WAS THE ONLY DESIGN THAT WOULD MAKE ANY NOTICEABLE POWER DIFFERENCE!!!!! "We just wont make a pipe and market it if it wouldn't make any power gains, why would people buy one?" From the mouth of D&D himself! Im sure they could have make a different style to follow the "Buell" tradition but a design like that wouldn't make the power and if they put more time into it to do that the cost would skyrocket. Look at it from a marketing stand point, the 1125 is already a low production unit. They wont be selling 10,000 of these cans and well lets face it, they wanted to be the first ones out. I do know price on these units but I don't want to spark a 40 page thread of people arguing about it. (Message edited by rainman1ne on February 07, 2008) |
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Interex2050
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:18 pm: |
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Xb9 has got the idea... |
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 11:10 pm: |
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That's funny though...the factory makes good power, and their can stays between the wheels where it should be (IMO). Perhaps there really *is* more to it than "just a muffler".... |
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Interex2050
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:07 am: |
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![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/335334.jpg) This is a something I just threw together... I think something more along the lines of the above would be nice... And since its a "plug" design the internal baffling can be altered until one gets the desired results... I am an ass, I cannot help myself. |
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Brad1445
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 01:22 am: |
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Interex2050 , You got Game!![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/clapsmile.gif) |
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Spectrum
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 07:51 am: |
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Interex2050 that's Awesome. You need to PM that to Kevin (kds1) and offer it up as the design for a new 1125R SS Drummer. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/thumbsup3.gif) |
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Zac4mac
| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 08:12 am: |
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Only problem is, it won't fit under the engine. Gotta smush it. I think if the stock muffler is modified with a larger, single outlet, it will sound better and not lose power. Got some ideas, need to get my welder going. Been looking at oval and round tips that might look good. This engine will make it tough to fit something UNDER the bike. Zack |