| Author | Message | ||
     Sath |
Trying to find a good oil filter for my XB12Scg. Came across a K&N at $20+, couldn't see any gold on it, just looked normal. Any suggestions? | ||
| Joedpr |
Purolator Pure one PL14476 $6.00 any auto parts store. | ||
| Sath |
Thanks Joedpr. | ||
| Sath |
Hey Court, Blake, with your wise and far reaching knowledge, you should get on this for us that don't have a Buell dealer near. Doing some research on filters, I'm not finding any but the K&N. I appreciate Jeodpr on the pure, I called the tech line for them and they said the filter in question was made for a car (toyota) and he wouldn't use it on a bike. And the parts listed for motorcycles stopped at 02 models. Same for Bosch, and Pref-form, etc. Can you guys come up with a list for the newer Buells we can but at Autozone, etc? at a price lower that $20+. Thanks Sath | ||
| Reepicheep |
This has been discussed a lot in the past when people were putting the FL1A on the Tubers... The "Toyota filter" isn't a Toyota filter, it's a an oil filter. That filter happens to be suitable for use on some Toyotas (Tercel I think) and for use on an XB engine. If there is a difference between the motorcycle filter and the car filter, nobody has been able to explain what it is and why it matters. If you are worried about it, I'm sure Andy would be happy to sell you a box of them and ship them out, and your local Buell dealer should have them in stock. I get Super Techs from Wal Mart, or Pure One filters from Autozone, depending on which store I am at when I need one. | ||
| Sath |
Yea I imagine your right, I mean how much engineering is put into an oil filter? I would bet anything that screws on and seals will be alright. webBikeWorld did a little study on the differences. But still what do they know. Its just a study. | ||
| Buelltroll |
I stuck a bigass magnet to the bottom of my last K&N. Try it you'll be shocked at the chunks. I still use K&N filters only. Ever heard the saying "you get what you pay for" ? | ||
| Djkaplan |
"If there is a difference between the motorcycle filter and the car filter, nobody has been able to explain what it is and why it matters." The main difference between oil filters from engine to engine (besides shape and size) is the PSI the bypass valve is set at. It's probably not a big deal to use a Ford filter on on a Buell, but I bet if you used a Buell filter on Ford 5.0, you'd have all sorts of problems... the low oil pressure of a roller bearing engine probably doesn't need to have the bypass PSI set very high, but the one for a plain bearing engine will. The reason for the bypass valve is so the filter will not burst on a cold start or if the filter media becomes too clogged to let oil though. Unfiltered oil is better than no oil at all. All this talk about how one filter is so much better than another makes me wonder how anyone got any riding done when Harleys didn't even have oil filters. It wasn't that long ago to an old man like me. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Daniel For me you have hit the nail on the head. My Buells run oil pressures in the range of 17psi according to the Service manual. I know my Mopars run around 50 to 70 psi at speed and above 35 at idle. But it would be nice to know the bypass pressures and how that would effect the filter performance. Until I get a grip on that knowledge I will just get a filter that the Mfg and experience has designed for us. Joe | ||
| Bombardier |
Another spec DJ is the size of the filter mesh/weave. This will govern what size the filter will actually filter the oil to in microns. This will vary from filter to filter. Higher flow usually means it will let a larger size particle( bit of metal/sludge ) through the filter to the engine. Too small a micron rating may also mean that the engine will starve for oil or the pressure will just make the filter run continuously in bypass meaning it will not be filtering at all. Before I change my filter to anything aftermarket I would have to be damn sure it is to the same specs as the standard. | ||
| Sath |
Finally found a filter for Buell, a Perf-Form OF-0071. I ordered from J&P Cycles on the web. Mabey a auto parts can order them? | ||
| Djkaplan |
"Another spec DJ is the size of the filter mesh/weave." I read an interesting article in one of the 'biker' mags where they compared the long Dyna filter to the regular short filter used on Sportsters and Big Twins. The Dyna filter has more filter area so it can utilize a more dense filter media without compromising flow. The extra oil capacity, smaller micron rating, and ability to flow enough for the application seem like a win/win/win situation to me, so I only use the factory Dyna filter. Plus, it's long enough so I can poke a hole in it and let it drain (without hitting the cases) before I unscrew it. It makes changing the oil a whole lot easier and cleaner. Hell.... that's win/win/win/win! | ||
| Jayvee |
I can't find the link now, but it's referenced somewhere on this board, where somebody cut up a bunch of oil filters and looked at them pretty close. The Purolater was the top one, and K&N was down amongst the bottom ones. The single 'advantage' K&N had was the nut on the end. Now K&N is a good company, I have their air filters on all 3 of my vehicles, but their unique ideas on air filters (that made them famous) are not applicable to oil filters. So it seems they are just part of the low-cost herd on oil filters. Not low price, low cost (to make.) I was as surprised as anybody. Darn, can't find the link. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Just as a matter of course, I always try to use the manufacturers filters. Probably not the best idea, but it seems safe. GMC and Chevy always get AC filters. Ford always gets an Autolite filter (cartridge type for a 1955 model). The Buell always gets Harley filters. | ||
| Sath |
Hey Jayvee, the link was webBikeWorld. It has a lot of info about bike products. And about the products anyone has, some one makes them. I think Perf-form makes harley. Thats the filter they had when I bought mine from them. And I heard that Mobil V-twin makes the Harley Syn-3 oil. Sath (Message edited by sath on February 28, 2008) | ||
| Blake |
Buell XBike oil filter cross reference gleaned from another post today. 
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| Buell_bert |
Are these numbers used for a 2000 M2 also? | ||
| Lighting |
A friend of mine has 32,000 miles in his XB9, always use Napa #1394 with 20-50 Mobil 1 right out of Wally World, the filter is usually $5,6 and the oil just about the same per quart. His bike has never had a issue so I'm following him with my 12S(already 3,000). What ever you do just change it every 4,000 and you will be fine(my $.02) |
