| Author | Message | ||
     Electraglider_1997 |
I love the 1125R, so let's get that out of the way. Anyway, when I first saw the 1125R at the Rapid City Auditorium during Sturgis week I told the Buell guy that the exhaust tip has lousy ugly welds. Of course he begged off with the standard, "pre-production bike and it will be taken care of by the time the bike goes into production". If that is the case then that same pre-production bike is sitting on my local dealer's floor. The rest of the bike is stellar except for that obvious unnecessary flaw. Those novice welds are out there for the whole world to ridicule. How about some photo's from you owner's to prove me wrong or that my dealer's 1125R is an aberration. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on January 29, 2008) | ||
| No_rice |
oh its not, the welds could be SOOO much better. i have come to take the beads on the frame as just a trademark of the xb style frame. the rest though just doesnt make any sense. i have been welding for better than half of my life and they just bug me. i am tempted to take the thing off and fix them, but i am not sure i want to until i see what the after market comes out with. i just dont get it. dont tell me it is for a stronger weld or crap like that. i heard the same things when people were asking about grinding them down to polish there frames. the strength of the weld is in the penitration not the glob on top. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
No Rice, I believe you and your bike from your profile were staying at the same Super 8 motel I was at in Racine, WI at the 07 Homecoming. Crusty and Spiderman stayed there also. | ||
| No_rice |
yep, me, the gf, and spidey walked from there to the boiler room to have a few(read many) alcoholic beverages. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Maybe Buell got a good deal having the local trade school kids do the welding. It looks like someone braised it with brass, then painted over it. It's not structural, so it really doesn't matter, it just looks bush. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I just got an Opinion Poll in the mail from BMC. Engine sound and muffler quality were noted as extremely deficient. That's the ONLY thing I really hate about the bike. Either I get my welder going and open it up, open the porting, weld it up and grind it SMOOTH myself or I'm getting a new Drummer. I don't care if I lose 5 HP, I WILL hear my exhaust over the damn valvetrain. Zack | ||
| Usroute66 |
A friend of mine compared the weld job quality of the Buell muffler to the quality of "beginning welding" in a high school shop class. I looks really crappy. | ||
| Nickcaro |
Drummer, Drummer, Drummer  | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Zac, I like the idea of opening up the muffler, cutting the guts out, and putting it back together. I don`t want mine super loud but would like to hear a bit more noise down there. I`d like to see some pics of one opened up first so I`d know where to start and not butch it up too bad. I know most of you hate the muffler and think that it already is butched but I honestly think that it`s cool looking. If any one wants to sell me their original muffler for cheap after they get their aftermarket replacement I will open it up and see what it takes to mod it for more sound. Hell, it might look even better if it had a patch and a few more welds on it. | ||
| Bobup |
here are some pics of the cutaway bike scroll down and you will see some of the muffler cutaway...also mirrored in the same shot http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/328986.html?1200017785 | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Thanks for the link Bobup. I never opened that thread. I wish that the IMS would come to St. Louis so I could get a better look. We havent had one here for a few years. | ||
| Blazin_buell |
Zac, either way you go please try to get a sound bite or vid so we can hear it. I'm REALLY being patient in not ripping mine off just to get some noise of some sort going (dual straight pipes?) on down there. I don't want to lose any torque though so I'm waiting see what someone will come up with, including a Dynosheet to back it up. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I like the muffler as do most people that I know that are "moto" educated enough for me to value their opinion. The welds could be better, but if the thing performs as advertised, I can live with it easily. If will be interesting to see what the aftermarket brings both aesthetically and performance wise. | ||
| Jpfive |
I like the muffler too. The welds don't bother, rather add to the utilitarian look of the piece. I will probably keep this one stock. Jack | ||
| Brad1445 |
Fresnobuell Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:15 pm: I like the muffler as do most people that I know that are "moto" educated enough for me to value their opinion. __________________________________________________ __ Don't forget this months Mensa meeting has been moved to Jonathan's new loft. According to the records it's your turn to bring the potato salad this time. Sincerely B | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Don't forget this months Mensa meeting has been moved to Jonathan's new loft. According to the records it's your turn to bring the potato salad this time. "Moto" educated in that they know the difference between underslung, undertail, midpipe & conventional exhausts--not the casual observer that just says "that's a sweet bike". It may come off uppity, but who's opinion do you value more regarding your bikes--your riding buddies or the cager coworker who comes out once in a while and checks out your ride. That was my point. Thanks. | ||
| Brad1445 |
OK, gotcha. I understand your point now, But do I get any points for working the words mensa and potato salad into the the same post? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Yeah, I didn't know that potato salad is brain food? If so, I need to eat some and alot of it! Maybe it will counteract all the brain cells I lose due to overconsumption of B E E R... | ||
| Zac4mac |
The pipes are too quiet(EFF off DOT) and the valvetrain's too noisy. Loretta whines like a ricer. Don't bother trying to run header only. Sounds cool but the o2 sensors shut her down in a few seconds. I appreciate the idea behind the muffler design, but it's too ugly and too quiet. I think I could live with the ugly part, not the quiet. When I hook up the flex pipe in the garage to outside, it has a beautiful rumble. I want to hear that from the bike, not chain whizzing. Z | ||
| Darkice19 |
My wife love the quietness of the 1125r. I dont. I miss my xb9 with the jardine pipe. I could set off car alarms from a block away. While going down the interstate i can actually hear the engine on this thing. And its not right. | ||
| Ccryder |
When my ST1300 was stock, all you could hear was the whine of the cam and balancer chains. I just told the H-D crowd it was my supercharger. I changed to a K&N and Staintunes and that whining disappeared into a nice pleasing V-4 GROWL! I now get comments from the H-D crowd "That don't sound like no Honda!". Sometime even those left handed compliments are nice. Time2Work Neil S. | ||
| Brad1445 |
Zack, I like your idea of gutting this pipe before you spend money. I did that to an older Ducati 900 and it sounded like a formula one racer after that and it was FREE. I you don't like it no loss than move to aftermarket. My Ulysses was a compulsive fan runner and I know what its like not being able to fully enjoy the V-Twin song. | ||
| Zac4mac |
The worst part is, under hard throttle she sounds like a frigging single!! Z | ||
| Spatten1 |
I now get comments from the H-D crowd "That don't sound like no Honda!" Sounds like Harley grammar. | ||
| Ccryder |
It is, it is, no accounting for....... anyway, I took it for a compliment all the same ;+} Time4Lunch Neil S. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Zac and others with 1125's. Can you give me a fairly accurate O.D. measurement of the head pipes just before going into the muffler. I'm wondering if any inch size will correspond to it for future fabrication of a new muffler system using pre bent bends,if I really do not like the muffler when I get mine. I'm thinking of fabbing a two in to one adapter/collector and adding maybe a carbon fiber or aluminum aftermarket muffler or possibly a SuperTrapp add on. Maybe I will like the stock one though. I wonder also if the F.I. controller will be able to adapt to it or a reset would be needed as is usually the case with tubers and XB's. Time will tell as more people change things to their liking. Bob | ||
| No_rice |
i thought about 2 into 1 ing it into one of my drummers, but there just isnt any room under there. i would have very minimal ground clearance, and sometimes i manage to grab alot of air even on a street bike  | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Rear cylinder pipe = 1.74" O.D. and Front cylinder pipe = 1.76" O.D. according to my trusty mid grade electronic caliper. It`s about the same as the O.D. of a typical 1.5" thin wall pipe. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Thanks much Neal (Dalton_gang), now I can get the mind working on something if I do not like the 1125 muffler. Always thinking....Bob | ||
| Zac4mac |
I swapped out the 50A breaker in my garage for a 60A and got the Atomic Hydrogen Welder going last night. Then I found out the Main for the garage is only 60A too, when the garage went dark. Damn space heaters. Bottom line is All I need is a tank of Hydrogen and a 70A or 100A breaker for the garage (wire is plenty big, I think the original owner cheaped out on the breakers) and I'll be ready to gut the bagpipe. Zack | ||
| Reepicheep |
Never heard of atomic hydrogen before and googled it... Cool stuff! It said the flame temp (4000 deg) was higher then any other flame... but thats cheating. Its higher then Actylene alone (3100 degrees) but well below Oxygen Actylene (6000+ degrees). Still cool though! sounds like it is great for getting a really small spot really hot really quick. I wonder if it is that much better then a small tip on an Oxy Act torch... | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Hey Zac, You better be careful with changing the size of your over current protective device (breaker). I'd hate to hear that Loretta got burnt up in a fire. It's not only the size of the wire that determines the ampacity of your ocpd but its also the length of the wire and insulation type that are factors normally used. If you give me some specifics I'd be happy to help you the best I can to determine maximum size of your ocpd and help keep you and Loretta safe from possible overload and fire. P.M. me if you want to talk about it. |
