| Author | Message | ||
     Nickcaro |
(ok, this is my first post on the 1125r board ) How is the storage underneath the seat? (if any) Does any one see room for an HID conversion on the low beams? Has anyone chopped the tail yet? o' man... I'm starting to get an itch for this bike.  (Message edited by nickcaro on January 18, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
there is storage under both seats I keep my tools under the my seat and use the passenger seat for other things, if you get digital hid lights they come with no igniter and I plan on doing all four light, go on www.xtralights.com they have the digital H8 bulbs you will need and should be able to put the small boxes in the fairing, they are all 35 watt bulbs but the hid bulbs are 35 watt to and the digital ones put out an extra 15% but 50 watt units are starting to hit the market and was thinking of doing fifty watt high beams. if you have any questions just do a post and I will get it. Mike | ||
| No_rice |
if you have ever looked under the rear seat of a firebolt, the 1125 has less room. the battery is now halfway into that space, and other things are under the front seat. there is no room for anything of decent size. and here i thought my firebolts had no storage space! the extra long plate mount on mine is already gone. as far as HID lights i dont see a reason for them. even though i havent ridden it at night yet i have had the lights on in my windowless garage and they are plenty good for me. but i am the guy who rides his regular headlighted firebolts with a full face helmet and a black shield every day, and every night that i ride. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Look at the"aftermarket goodies" thread. My Loretta got liposuction and now has a cute little rear end. More storage than a Firebolt, same body plastic with a lower undertray. Well if no_rice says less, I believe him. He still has a Firebolt, mine's gone. Deeper but shorter? Lights seem to be very strong, too cold here to ride at night, hell it's too cold to ride in the daytime too mostly... Z (Message edited by zac4mac on January 19, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
No- Rice, I Have H I D light on my ulysses and besides being able to see way down the hyway at night so I do not overdrive my head lights, they also make your bike stand out in the day time with the lights brightness and bluish tint. I would suggest riding around and look at the expensive cars and how the stand out among the yellow lights. I am a safety nut and do everything to my bike to make it safer, my ulysses H I D lights are awesome at night and in the day time I run both on so I am more visible to stupid four wheelers trying to kill me. Mike | ||
| Baggermike |
Zack do you think I can get a bigger battery in there, Odyssey battery co emailed me that there battery is 7" long, and I want the best battery to have piece of mind, so if you know of a better battery or if there battery will fit let me know Zack, also that seat on the firebolt on your profile is it more comfortable?. Mike | ||
| Ccryder |
Hey Mike: Even with the digital HIDs I'm wondering what their warm up time is. I think those xtralights HIDs would be nice in 2 of 4 of the low beams (wish I could afford more). We still need to figure out a delay for firing up the HIDs while starting. (One of our EE has a neat little circuit designed) Maybe an upgraded H9 from PIAA/ Hella would be the way to for hi beam. Neil S. Just sitting back recovering and dreaming. | ||
| Xb9 |
I just did the Low beam HID install on my 1125r and there is room in the fairing for it. Took some time fiddling around and figuring out the best place for the ballasts and the inverters, but I got it in there pretty cleanly. The super-slim ballasts fit nicely on the bottom area of the fairing, under the headlight housings. WAY! more light than the 35w stock helogens. I also fitted an XB license plate bracket to eliminate the 'black hole' stock unit. Worked out great, just had to bend it a bit and make a cover out of black plastic for where the original one attaches underneath. | ||
| Xb9 |
1125r comes with H8 35watt on all four lights. H9 is 65watt H11 is 55 watt The H9 & H11 uses similar but slightly different wire plug than the H8, so you'd have to change the stock harness plug. I know for sure the H9 will fit the housings without any modification, i'm pretty sure the H11 will also. The nice thing about the HID unit is they draw the same 35 watts. I'm a little reluctant to go 55 watt or 65 watt on the high beam because of the extra draw. Gotta be a reason why Buell put 35 watt bulbs in there instead of 55 or 65 watt. Wonder if the wiring/charging system can handle it? (Message edited by xb9 on January 19, 2008) | ||
| Rich |
Delay? DEI528T http://www.radiomancaraudio.com/DEI-Switches-Relay s.htm | ||
| Andella |
Be sure to get the 4300k units if you want to maximize the light output. The other colors are a joke. | ||
| Baggermike |
Ccrider the warm up time for the digital ones are allot faster and have 15% more light output and color consistency, also there is no starter so all you have is the small box to mount. I have 8000k lights that are really bright and the higher the color temp the less output but more blue they are. My uly got the 8000k lights and put out amazing light and do not know why Andella is saying there a joke? I can see sighns light up down the road during the day, that is how bright the ones I got are, maybe it is a quality issue? I got mine from aerostitch at almost 200 a piece and they say 6000k is the best color but I like the blue tint to them so I got 8000k which is super bright on the ulysses and have to be carefull at night with them. Mike | ||
| Baggermike |
also check out www.hidfoglight.com they have a color scale to show which is the best for you and are also cheaper on this site. | ||
| Nickcaro |
ok, where is our electrical consultant? Will these unit allow a delayed activation of the HIDs? ------------- Rich Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 03:01 pm: Delay? DEI528T http://www.radiomancaraudio.com/DEI-Switches-Relay s.htm | ||
| Rich |
Some of the Hayabusa guys use it to delay the HID startup. I don't have one, I haven't decided whether to put one in, or put a on/off switch in my headlight circuit. Here's an ebay add for one that explains a little- http://cgi.ebay.com/DEI-528T-DEI528T-Pulse-Timer-S PDT-Relay-NEW_W0QQitemZ190190549216QQcmdZViewItem? IMSfp=TL0801151018a3986 | ||
| Andella |
I say they are a joke because they are not the optimal color for a headlamp. 4200-4300K is what EVERY automobile manufacturer uses for HID lamps. The blue tint you see comes from light refracting on the outer edges of a projector style headlamp. Here are a few links to some great information about HID lighting.... http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue /bad/bad.html http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue /good/good.html http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/ HID.html Don't get me wrong either.... HID lighting is absolutely the way to go. | ||
| Baggermike |
Nick why would you want a delay activation for the lights, I have no problem starting the ulysses with the lights on, do you think they will not ignite, or not let you start the bike, you could wire the low beams up to a switch so you can turn them off, I might do this because on my other bike with side lights they would light up the road right in front of me and make it harder to see down the road so I learned to shut them off and made a big difference in how far I could see, on the rare occasion that I drive a car I dim the inside instrument panel by doing this to, and wonderd why bikes did not have this feature, now the buell does and you can dim the instruments so you can ride at night and not be blinded by the instruments, and I also will tilt my mirrors so the oncoming traffic does not blind me, both these methods allow me to see further down the road, which to me is very important at 70 to 80 miles an hour where a moose can walk out in front of me. | ||
| Nickcaro |
Well, I've been led to believe that the delay is good so that they don't sputter during the ignition procedure and improving the life of the..... hmm... can't remember the name of the component. ...the igniter? btw; I don't want to be part of an HID temperature war–but I support 4300 - 4600 temp range. (Message edited by nickcaro on January 19, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
Hi Andella, you got my attention and now am thinking of what that link had to say, I know my ulysses I can see so much better but that is not the 1125R so I will experiment with a cheap set of hids and do a blind study with regular H8 bulbs and see which is better, I do not care if the are illegal but I care that I can see way down the road, I go into a cematary to test my lights so I go by this and will get the best holagens and a cheap hid set and wire them up so I can switch back in fourth between the two to see for my self and then will report my findings, I now am going to wait and get other stuff before getting the lights and will do more research on this subject. Thanks Andella you might have saved me lots of money. Mike | ||
| Andella |
Nick - Not trying to start a war either..... Information on a lot of sellers websites is misleading. Baggermike - HIDs will be the better choice and no conventional lamp will outperform them. I was just trying to point out color differences with the kits. The expensive kits are what you are looking for but I just disagree with anything other than 4300K. (Message edited by andella on January 19, 2008) | ||
| Zac4mac |
4300˚K is too yellow. 8000˚K is too blue. 6000-6500˚K is a nice white. My humble O. Z | ||
| Baggermike |
Andella on hidfoglights they have the colors and say 6000k is the best but I like the blue tint, my ulysses has 8000k and is super bright, the digital says 15% brighter, but reading that link and understanding how light thrown out to the sides is bad I am now thinking that the only way is two hook up the two high beams and run a switch and see how one bulb works with regular light bulb and one with the hid, I will go in a cematary to test because there is no lights on and really the place to adjust your lights, if I was to ride for long hours at night I would put my display as low as it would go and would want my beams going way down the road and not in front of me, I can not understand why the 1125 has all four lights on at high, I will research this but for now I am doing my rear light and also want to turn my signals into running lights and rear break lights, I am a safety nut and lost my wife in a accident and now I am afraid of getting rear ended so I am starting there first and then will do the front, thanks for the info. Mike | ||
| Nickcaro |
Mike, I love light. My current XB12 is rigged to run both low and high plus I run a set of PIAA 1100x driving lights on the forks. Maybe I'm missing something, cause I don't see an H8 kit on that site... Anyway, I look forward to seeing your posts after you purchase and install these Digital HIDs. (Message edited by nickcaro on January 19, 2008) | ||
| Ccryder |
IIRC the ballasts don't like the low voltage starts or the quick on/ off. I had been warned 3-4 years ago about that from Superhids.com (my HIDs on my ST1300) The latest HIDs at Xtralights (the etronic and etronic digital) claim to have a patented system to keep this from damaging the components. Color temp has always been a user preference. It is said that the higher color temp produces fewer lumens. Max lumens is in the 5500-6500 range (I know this from reading not personal expertise). That being said, Mike I think you are proceeding down a logical path. Since I don't have a 1125r yet, and my ST has HIDs, I will be waiting on you all to do the experimenting. FWIW: Daniel Stern seems to know what he is talking about but, he errs on the side of being legal. 1st hand experience over the past 7+ years has shown me that HIDs in halgeon designed reflectors will still produce more light. Time4Sleep and 2 recover. Neil S. |
