| Author | Message | ||
     Donutclub |
Mine was overfull like that as well. I'm guessing that the Dealer added too much oil to my bike. I'd say that the same thing happened to you from the looks of it. | ||
| Spectrum |
So is the oil added at the factor or as part of the dealer prep? | ||
| Blake |
I see no muddying of any waters, just a new Buell 1125R that has been over-filled with oil. If it were me, I'd remove enough oil to bring it within proper range. That is likely all your dealer will do. I can see wanting to have the situation documented by them though. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Mine was overfilled similar to the pictures above. Glad that we have a definitively response now. I will contact my dealer to confirm the HD bulletin & then ask them if they HAVE to see the bike to acknowledge that it is significantly overfilled. I would prefer to drain the oil myself tho. Any time I can keep my vehicle (car or bike) out of the dealer's hands I like too. DOes this bike come with dino or synthetic from the factory? | ||
| Bratmanrider |
I did my first oil change today on my 1125R. I drained the oil and then measured the amount. It came to an even four quarts. This oil was drained from the left and right side including the oil filter. I called my Dealer Rep at home since it was after hours. He and I are in close contact on these new 1125r's. It seems his service department was still unaware of the oil check being done with the bike straight up instead of leaned over.I received an email confirmation on that from a Factory Tech last week. I was shocked to discover four quarts of oil drained from my 1125R. My Dealer Rep checked some info he received from a Dealers Training Seminar he attended and said the specs he has says four quarts of oil. So I'm a quart shy since I only picked up three and a filter at my last trip to the Dealer. Tomorrow I will pick up another quart and add that in and do my oil level check according to the latest info. Are you all confused out there and wondering what the heck is going on with the owners manual and the Factory? Well the Dealer's Service reps don't even have a shop manual in yet.All you new owner's check the amount of oil you drain out on the first oil change! I'll report back tomorrow on the oil level. | ||
| Blake |
The correct total oil capacity is 3 quarts (2.8 L). Please do not put more than 3 quarts (2.8L) of oil into your Buell 1125R motorcycle. | ||
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| Zac4mac |
Blake - I got new filters finally. Drained the oil, right side 6mm Allen, left side 17mm bolt and the filter cap. Then I started her and ran about 20 seconds to clear the lines (and the new bigger oil cooler). Very disturbing, the Oil Pressure light never came on. Added 3 qts Syn3. No ride, but idling to temp then 3 minutes idling on sidestand, shut it off wait 2 minutes. Stood it up and the dipstick was clean. Added another 1/2 qt and repeated - dead nuts on. Will see today after riding some how it looks and see if I have to suck some out. Z | ||
| Blake |
Yikes! Z-Man! I would strongly caution against running the bike dry like that. Unlike the air-cooled Harleys and Buells, the Buell 1125R Helicon engine employs plain journal bearings which rely on oil pressure to prevent metal to metal contact. The little bit of residual oil that is left in the engine is not worth the risk. Certainly the owner's manual doesn't advise running the engine dry of oil, even for a few seconds. Thanks for relaying that information though. It is one more set of data for us. Note however that failing to ride the bike as specified before checking the oil and then after running it dry may have compromised the accuracy of the oil level measurements you took. There's really no way to be sure other than to follow the instructions. Remember that the tranny is also lubricated by the engine oil, so actually riding the bike and getting the tranny moving may affect indicated oil level. Doesn't seem likely I know, but it is just one more variable that inhibits full confidence in the oil level measurement. Also, we already have one report that even just putting the bike on the sidestand while running and waiting 2 minutes affects the oil level indication on the dipstick. The instructions clearly state that the bike needs to be upright and vertical before the 3 minute idle and 2 minute shutoff. It is possible though based upon your observations that I will need to rephrase my admonition "don't put more than 3 quarts in your 1125R" or ad a (refill capacity) caveat to the Will be interesting to hear what you find when you check the level after a ride. | ||
| No_rice |
Drained the oil, right side 6mm Allen, left side 17mm bolt and the filter cap. Then I started her and ran about 20 seconds to clear the lines (and the new bigger oil cooler). Very disturbing, the Oil Pressure light never came on. i'd be abit more worried about the fact i just ran my motor with no oil in it than the fact the oil pressure light didnt kick on!!!!!! wow | ||
| Davegess |
What would a pressure gauge read when the pump is pumping air instead of much a thicker fluid? Might that confuse the sensor? | ||
| Bratmanrider |
Blake, You stated do not add more than three quarts of oil. How do you explain the 1125R from the Dealer having four quarts on the first oil change? I have information stating from a Dealer handbook that the 1125R holds four quarts. My owners manual says three, but it also says check oil on the sidestand. There's info that said the fuel capacity was 5.6 gals. The owner's manual says 5.3. What should we all do? I'm going by what I drained out of the bike and the fact that I did a oil level check on the side stand before draining it and it was right on the mark. Tonight when I get home I will do a oil level check with the three quarts and then add the fourth quart and see what I get. I will report back with my info. Thanks for your info. | ||
| Doerman |
Here's the data so far: - Annony has confirmed that the oil capacity is 3qts (an annony in this context is somebody from Buell - not always) - Annony has also confirmed that the fuel capacity is 5.3gallons - Annony suggested that the correct oil level check is as outlined in the header of this thread and it has been confirmed since by dealer (who received official communication from Buell on the check procedure) So I'd strongly suggest not to add the fourth quart of oil. I'd also strongly suggest you verify through your dealer regarding what I have written since BadWeb and its contributors are not a substitute for confirmed information from Buell. Which in your case you can only get through your dealer for your bike. Asbjorn (Message edited by doerman on January 14, 2008) | ||
| Donutclub |
Just imagine the poor folks that are not "Bad Web" subscribers! It's confusing enough for us. Call Buell Customer Service if you want to ensure you are using the correct oil amount and/or the procedure. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Yeah, I am SURE that there are some 1125r owners out there that don't participate here.  Now they have to rely on the dealerships to inform them? I wonder if Buell will treat it like a recall or at least send a notice directly to the owner? | ||
| Court |
Call Buell Customer Service if you want to ensure you are using the correct oil amount and/or the procedure. | ||
| Buellborn |
Are those the guys that printed the manual?  | ||
| Court |
>>>Are those the guys that printed the manual? Completely different group. Technical Publications does the manuals and if you want a thankless job . . that's it! They always get the stuff late . . . they scramble to get the thing done. About the time the draft copies arrive for review time is at a huge premium for someone to sit down, concentrate and give a sound "let us know if you find any errors" response. There is a page smack dab in the front of the book and if you do (Badweb folks have proven themselves pretty keen eyed) find something . . PLEASE fill out that page and send it in. DO NOT RELY on the internet and hope someone will sort through the billions of posts and find the info. In the meantime . . . all the technical groups are connected to BUELL CUSTOMER SERVICE, including the 1125R "Infant Care" group . . . there is never a better answer than . . . Court (Message edited by court on January 14, 2008) | ||
| Baggermike |
I was looking thru my manual and it called for 3 quarts with a filter change, but when checking the oil it did not say to have it level, but on the kickstand, and idle for 3 minutes and then shut off and wait 2 minutes, which has to be wrong because I have changed my oil and will show nothing this way, do you guys have owners manuals that say 3 or 4 quarts of oil. mike | ||
| Baggermike |
I think entill get the word from buell directly I am going to put 3.5 quarts of oil, I did the warm up ride and did the procedure stated above and did not hardly show on the dipstick with the bike upright so I think that I can not trust anyone and will spit the difference till I get the word from buell. Mike | ||
| Jpfive |
My owner's manual says 3 qts, Mike. Jack | ||
| Brad1445 |
I think it may be a good idea for Buell to send out a new page or pages for he owners manual that the owners can stick right over the old pages. Or at least sent a formal letter ASAP. Working in marketing, I see this is an easy fix and the print job could be done today, and an than an overnight package to all owners will kill this thread by Thursday. (Message edited by brad1445 on January 15, 2008) | ||
| Court |
Mike: I'd prefer you call either your dealer, who has the current information on HDnet or BUELL CUSTOMER SERVICE. Your 1125R is a high quality machine. I'm not excited about you taking your "best guess". There is a capable and competent group of folks at BUELL CUSTOMER SERVICE . . who's job it is to handle these types of questions. They got up, had coffee, drove to work and their ONLY job is to handle Buell issues like this. Don't let them fall asleep waiting for your phone call. Court | ||
| Baggermike |
Very good advice Court, were can I find the number? I got a couple of questions that I think only they can answer. Mike | ||
| Mikej |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/6/3 609.html?1197633762
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| Zac4mac |
up, that's the number here on my wall. Ann(Anne?) is a jewel too. 20 minutes after talking to her, trying to find out where my 1125 was, I got the call that it just came off the truck. She's Magic. Z | ||
| Zac4mac |
Finally, this morning, I got a "good read" on my oil, following SOP to the letter. Last night, I used a Spinal Tap needle, 14ga, to suck out the oil to drop it to 3 qts, since I added a half quart 3 days ago. Rode in 12 miles to work, let her idle 3 minutes on the sidestand, shut her off and waited 2 minutes to read while I straddle Loretta and hold her straight up. Oil is dead nuts on at Max line. Another resolved issue. Z | ||
| Court |
. . . . . I'm wondering where the quote "if it ain't broke don't fix it came from?"  | ||
| Blake |
Zac, Thanks onced again for taking time to help clarify this issue. Just one question, is it SOP to "let her idle 3 minutes on the sidestand"? I guess we don't yet know if that is or isn't an issue. Based upon your results, it appears that it may not be. I'll call BCS myself and get the official word on all this. Stay tuned. | ||
| Blake |
I'm hesitant to post this since it seems preposterous to me, but here it is: Folks at customer service don't have any new information concerning checking the oil level in the Buell 1125R. They state that 1125R owner's should follow the owner's manual, check oil on sidestand, capacity is 3 quarts. If there is a discrepancy, take the bike to the dealership. The customer service folks are apparently as yet uninformed concerning the issue, other than having fielded hordes of inquiries from folks who've read this thread on BadWeB. This is strange since one dealership has confirmed receipt of a new/corrected procedure for checking the Buell 1125R oil level. <sigh> |
