| Author | Message | ||
     Bigblock |
Try a fog city shield insert. Cheap and effective. | ||
| Jlnance |
Bigblock - Some Badweb History from before your time. Enjoy  | ||
| Court |
Careful leaving that Buell outside in Tarrytown . . . I'm in that area a couple times a week. That was a SURPRISE rain. I left Chappaqua about 5:30 and it was a sprinkle. By the time I got to Manhattan it was coming down good. Great to see folks riding these! Court | ||
| Davegess |
I wonder how comfortable a 1098 Ducati would have been on that ride? ;) | ||
| Thunderbox |
Buellnewbie I remember another time and place. I had a relatively stock 74 Kawasaki 500. I regularly waxed those riding the famous 900Z1. Many said it was impossible and I could have had many pinks for my effort. So don't be too fast to be say an 1125R can not beat a 05 R1. Call the guy a liar or believe it, I don't see any reason to acclaim him as wrong. I would bet money some day, light to light, an 1125R will wax you and good. | ||
| Reepicheep |
A woman I work for has a husband that is a track day junkie. He is older and more mature, and does a LOT of track days. I asked her about what kind of bike he rides, and she said... errr... a blue one. So I was guessing R6, but she gave me his email address. This was before the inside pass event, so I was emailing him about track prep. Very cool guy. Turns out he has an R1, and we get to talking about bikes and track days. He really liked having all that power on the straights, but said he spends most of his time in the corners worrying about lighting up the rear and wrecking the thing. He said it takes a lot of the fun out of it, and said it would have been smarter to get a lighter more fun bike. He politely said something like my Buell, but I know he was being polite, and meant something more like an R6. Having ridden an 1125R on the track, I spent almost *no* time worrying about lighting up the rear, though I did worry about lifting up the front (err... getting caught lifting up the front anyway). Just another datapoint... People take peaky powerbands because thats what they had to have to get big power. They didn't *want* peaky power bands, they are a bad thing, a fundamental flaw. And this is true both on the street and the track. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
lighting up the rear tire is big concern for me...getting on the freeway a few days ago in the cold and wet i was comming around a very sharp corner on the onramp and some (shall we say slightly thought challenged ) arse brain wanted to be where i was...i romped on the juice hard and almost bit it hard...twas one of those wonderful moments when ur life flashes before ur eyes while my back wheel was doing its best to pass up the front one...im thinkin something with traction control would be nice in this kind of weather. | ||
| Bigblock |
Just as funny today as the day it was posted Jim! ( I do tend to be Mr. Literal...) I don't post a lot, ( probably lucky for Badweb...) but I have been hangin' aroung fer awhile... | ||
| Jlnance |
Bigblock - | ||
| Ceejay |
not trying to defend anyone here but how often is the pole sitter in a race the winner, more not than often I'm guessing | ||
| Buellnewbie |
I think we should set the record straight here about the whole 1125 vs. R1 thing. I never said that a Buell wouldn't be able to compete in the cornering game with an R1. I'm sure it handles just as good if not better than an R1 and is probably more "flickable". On a tight, twisty road I have no doubt it would keep up if not surpass an R1, given similar rider skill sets; however, the original poster claimed he smoked an '06 R1, so I assumed he was speaking of flat out straight line speed. If this is indeed what he meant, then I have serious doubts as to the R1 rider's skill (not that it takes much to go WOT in a straight line). From stop light to stop light, I'd say it would depend on how far apart they are and the skills of each rider in his ability to cleanly launch his bike. I'd like to see an 1125 outrun my '06 GSXR from, say, 50mph to 150mph starting in each rider's chosen gear, and then I'll believe it. But it will never happen. We all know liter bikes are capable of hitting 0-60 in 3 seconds and 0-100 in around 5. I highly doubt an 1125 will accelerate faster than that. Heck, my '04 R1 would top out in first gear at over 90 mph. Now, if both bikes rolled on in top gear from, say, 40mph, then I'm sure the Buell would pull an R1 or GSXR for that matter, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about raw acceleration, and anybody here that is convinced that an 1125 is faster in pure acceleration than an '06 R1 or GSXR is sadly mistaken. Like I said before, every magazine editor who has ridden one has clearly stated that in terms of raw acceleration, it CAN'T compete with late model liter bikes. So here's a wager....since I'm sure nobody here would risk losing their bike for the sake of a race, as soon as someone near Tampa, Fl. gets their's broken in and would like to do a roll on from 50 to 150 (or whatever) for $500, bring your cash and your balls and let me know. I'll be glad to take $500 off someone's hands. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Gotta love internet bravado. | ||
| Rocketman |
Could you give us your prediction, or better still, timed 1125 top gear roll on? Rocket | ||
| Dre99gsx |
On topic please.... | ||
| Xnoahx |
Straight line speed is for cowards and the drag strip. Race it on a trace or a nice canyon run. | ||
| Cobralightning |
Any contest on the street with regards to top speed or drag racing is foolish. I have read many articles on the 1125R and have not seen anyone say it could not compete with the 600 class of bikes. I will definitely be looking for future comparisons. And to stop all this my bike is better then yours stuff that is floating around. Hard numbers in a controlled environment will be nice to see. | ||
| Dentguy |
Straight line speed is for cowards and the drag strip. Race it on a trace or a nice canyon run. Tell that to the people on the Salt Flats every year setting records. Including the ones who ride Buells. | ||
| Bigblock |
Jlnannce- amend to the end of my previous post- | ||
| Blake |
In a competition of very high speed, peak HP matters; gearing matters; aerodynamics matter including garb and stature of riders. Put Danny Pedrosa in leathers on an 1125R and some big dork wearing floppy gear on an R1, you still wanna make that $500 wager, cause I'll take it! At very high speed, aerodynamics starts to matter a lot more than HP. For instance, if it requires 120 RWHP to push a certain rider and motorcycle to 150 mph, then it will take 175 RWHP to push that same rider/motorcycle to 170 mph. The math is (170/150)3*120=175. But if you have a nice aerodynamic rider/bike that only requires 100 RWHP to make 150 mph, then it will only take 146 RWHP to get them to 170 mph. The math is (170/150)3*100=146. So you can see how a more aerodynamically efficient motorcycle/rider could compete well at high speed compared to another having almost 30 RWHP more but that is less aerodynamically efficient. An new 1125cc American V-Twin runs down and passes a two year old 1000cc Japan Inc IL4, and for some the whole world turns upside down. Best get used to it. It's only going to get worse amigos. | ||
| Andella |
Can anyone post a video clip or two on youtube or something for us who are still waiting for Santa to deliver something? | ||
| Brad1445 |
Aerodynamics like this?   | ||
| Rocketman |
An new 1125cc American V-Twin runs down and passes a two year old 1000cc Japan Inc IL4, and for some the whole world turns upside down. Seeing as I'm wearing your favourite bulls eye, I'll take the bait. Dave Jeffries, Fastest man around the TT, first on an R1, then again on a GSXR1000. Different bikes. Different teams. Different years. Not a fluke. Dave Jeffries was 6'2" and 200lbs. In other words, a 'big boy' for a motorcycle racer.  First rider to complete race laps at 125, 126 and 127 mph. First rider to complete a sub 18 minute lap. Only rider in the history of the TT to complete three consecutive Triple wins. New Formula 1 lap record New Formula 1 race record New Production1000 lap record New Production 1000 race record New Senior and outright lap record New Senior race record. 1st Winner of the Joey Dunlop Trophy, fastest aggregate time for the Formula 1 and Senior TT 1st Rider to win the Formula 1 TT on a Suzuki since 1982 1st Rider to win the Senior TT on a Suzuki since 1983 Outright Lap record holder at 127.29 mph. Aerodynamics? Sometimes the math and the science just don't add up. Rocket | ||
| Davegess |
Rocket comparing the TT to a straight line speed contest is pointless. DJ didn't set those lap times because he was the most aerodynamic, he set them because he was the best and had the biggest balls. | ||
| M2nc |
If you really want to compare the 1125R, the GSX-R750 is as close as it gets. GSX-R750 versus 1125R Crank HP 145hp vs. 146hp Torque 60ft-lbs vs 82ft-lbs Weight less fuel 417# vs. 420# Torque is the only real difference. The 1125R makes power where the Gixxers doesn't. 2007 Master Bike numbers R1 - GSX-R1000 - GSX-R750 0-60mph 2.9sec - 2.9sec - 2.9sec 1/4 mi 9.94sec - 9.88sec - 10.27sec Top Speed 177mph - 178mph - 168mph Average Lap Times @ Jerez 1:53.675sec - 1:54.24sec - 1:54.406sec The liter bikes managed a three to four bike length advantage over the 750 in the 1/4 mile and less than a second on lap times at Jerez. These are professional riders and their best times. Take it to the street with varying skill levels and stories of 1125R besting liter bikes on the street or track (street rider to street rider) will be abundant. I really am mystified how the open class faithful can't see that the performance advantage the open class bikes have over the 1125R is spitting distance. Since very few riders can actually get the most out of an open class repli-racer, the rider factor is huge and extra HP is just not the only factor. The 1125R will not only hang straight line, I say it will best the liter bikes in the twisties since it should compete more heads up with the 600cc or GSX-R750 class motorcycles like the Firebolt. The smaller repli-racers produce better speeds in tight turns reducing lap times in the master bike competition. My only advice to the Open class faithful, take your prozac, the next few months is going to be tough on you. By the way, the GSX-R750 was the 2006 Master Bike Champion. | ||
| Bearly |
Any 1125R riding impressions? | ||
| Zac4mac |
I now have a little over 250 miles on mine. She is getting noticeably smoother. Both idle speed and shifting are better. I can regularly find neutral now, while stopped. Very comfortable ride. I'm 5' 10" and 160#. Leg position feels more "tucked in" that Firebolt. Cold here but what little "flicking" I can do, the 1125 seems more responsive than Firebolt. Compared to my 03 9R, this thing is Wicked Fast™. Coughs/sputters some at low rpm, that is also getting better. Ambient temp sensor is pretty close if you go 50+mph New functions on dash are fun to play with. Front fender could be longer in back. I've got mud splashes all over the pods and airbox. That's all I can think of now. Oh yeah, her name's Loretta. Zack (Message edited by zac4mac on December 21, 2007) | ||
| Dre99gsx |
Agreed. On mine, 330 miles: - Mud splashes EVERYWHERE. Gotta do something about extended fairings on the front and rear wheels. - My exhaust can is inundated with muddy type of crap from small puddles here an there. - Neutral is also gettting better. - The dash should be moved up about 2 inches, tough to see without moving your head down... - My ambient temp sens isn't correct even at 70mph. - Also getting comfortable, 140#, 5,11". | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
is this compare 1125r to R1 thread or what, where are the ridding impressions! who gives a crap on how many races the other bikes win i want to hear about 1125r's from owners! | ||
| Doerman |
I know Bjorn.. Everything just HAS to be a pissing match... tiring isn't it? I've got 220 miles on as of this morning. Mine got dirty yesterday also as I ran into rain and fog. Which gave me an occasion to find out how great the Pirellis are in the wet and cold on very twisty roads. The occasion presented itself by avoiding a coyote as I came around a bend. I put the upgraded seat on for yesterday's ride and I can already tell that seat is much better than the stock. I have also put a Cortek tank bag on it. That helps in carrying doo dads. There's the occasional cough and sputter at lower rpms but that is already improving at current mileage and I have already noticed that major elevation changes do not affect this bike like it does the XBs. Going from sea level to 6000 feet the XB needs a little time to "find itself" as you ascend, whereas the 1125 must continually adjust to the altitude change. Asbjorn | ||
| Zcat |
Why all the speculation on the 1125 racing Jap liter bikes? No one has done it on a well broke in and well tuned 1125 yet so it is meaningless. Nobody knows, NOBODY. The answer will be well known next summer, but I could care less about that -I WANT AN 1125 and I WANT IT NOW! Had most of the rice rockets including an obscenely fast turbo charged, nitrous injected ZX12R and I'm through with that crap. I like to ride and be fairly comfortable for Loooong days of fun. Probably very few have the ability to ride their rice rocket to it's potential anyways so what is the point exactly?? |
