| Author | Message | ||
     Buellnick |
The 1125r needs one... The air scoops will be better integrated. The "quiet zone" can be improved. The overall aerodynamics may improve. It will look more like a Superbike. Think about the RR1000 or XBRR...  | ||
| Olinxb12r |
Plus they don't even need to change the exhaust if they cover it! | ||
| Metalstorm |
The cost of repair will go up. The cost to insure will go up. I'd really, really like to see a full fairing as an option. Even though I think I would prefer it just the way it is (I wouldn't know until I actually saw a full faired one), I'm all for options.  | ||
| Buellborn |
An American twin with power, and looks easy on the eyes? combined? Could such a dream come true? | ||
| Buellnick |
The history books say the rr1000 was one of the most aero bikes ever built...the XBRR is supposed to be really good as well. With that lineage, I wonder how the 1125r does in the wind tunnel? I know Buell deliberately worked on creating the "quiet zone." The designers/engineers must have considered a full fairing. Any comments on this topic by factory guys/gals would be appreciated. Maybe a fairing will be available for racing and general looks. One can only hope. | ||
| Bearly |
I vote for just having the option for those who might want it. I don't think that's going to be a problem for the after market folks though. | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
IMO i like the half naked look, other wise it will look like every other race replica bike going down the road, i like to see the raw engine and not hide it in crapy plastics and buell made it very aerodynamic without the need of a full fariing. | ||
| Buellnick |
Imagine a full fairing model with air scoop bulges. There would be nothing like it on the road... | ||
| Brad1445 |
Buellnick Imagine a full fairing model with air scoop bulges. There would be nothing like it on the road... _________________________________________ That could be really tough looking! Somebody please photochop that! | ||
| Garrett2 |
why would insurance go up with more fairing? when i got my quotes they didnt say "is that a naked bike or..." | ||
| Metalstorm |
Comprehension & collision insurance could be higher (depending on the ins company) because it would cost substantially more to replace a whole fairing than it would to replace one small scoop. | ||
| Buellborn |
If insurance is a real concern of a manufacture they could include frame sliders in the design. | ||
| Darkice19 |
 This is what im doing this weekend. | ||
| Tq_freak |
If insurance is a real concern of a manufacture they could include frame sliders in the design. The scoops are the sliders. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Anyone know how much a replacement "slider" will cost? | ||
| Rocketman |
Interesting how one can imagine the drooling of long haired and wild youthfulness in the original, and the rationality of the old man with pipe and slippers in the latter   No wonder I don't want to grow old. Rocket | ||
| Blake |
"Drooling"? I thought that came with old age? Besides, the 1125R is faster. | ||
| Smoke |
full on racebike/ comfortable sportbike. tim | ||
| Rocketman |
Besides, the 1125R is faster. Actually Blake, I recon there's a good chance the Barton motor, as modified by Buell, might well have been faster. Would be fun to know that one. It reminds me of the R1 when Bike magazine tested it for the first time. Something along the lines of 'any competent rider entering the 1976 GP season on one would have beat Sheene and won the world championship.' Sheene was writing a regular column in Bike at the time, which is partly why the chose to make such comment no doubt. I just read a fantastic book written by Raymond Mays, racing driver and founder of BRM racing cars. It's astonishing to think GP cars of the late 50's were at 600BHP and pushing speeds around 180 MPH and beyond. Rocket | ||
| Captpete |
"Drooling"? I thought that came with old age? It's available to any age, and is after all, the highest form of compliment... the drooling old men are simply reminiscing - mostly about women.  | ||
| Elvis |
"In 1978, Erik Buell recorded the fastest newcomer qualifying time for the Daytona 200 motorcycle race. Four years later he left Harley-Davidson to pursue his dream of designing his own race bike. In 1983, he did just that when he designed and built the RW750 motorcycle specifically to compete in the AMA Formula One road racing class." http://www.independentinfo.com/articles/motorcycle s/The-history-of-Buell-motorcycles.txt His Daytona times should be available somewhere for anyone who knows how to look up such things. The track has changed pretty significantly since then though, hasn't it? Still, I think it would be cool to see what the times back then did look like. Personally, I'd be AMAZED if the top times back then could come close to competing with what modern bikes can do, but an interesting topic either way. Could we even coax the man himself to come out of hiding to discuss something like this? He'd be the one to comment. Maybe he could hop on Shawn's 1125R in March and see if he can top his best times from the '70s. . . . as if Harley's legal department would let him, but it's fun to think about. | ||
| Rfischer |
Yvon DuHamel was shredding tires @ 200+ mph at Daytona in the 70's. However, the track was so different as to make lap time comparisons to today's pointless. | ||
| Davegess |
The RW750 made more peak HP than the 1125 does IN IT STREET TRIM. I would think it could easily exceed the HP of the RW if it was set up for full race. It is less than 20 hp below it now in full EPA legal trim. Straight up the street legal 1125 and the not street legal RW?? I would have to think the RW would have more top end and MIGHT accelerate faster as it has more HP and less weight. But comparing a pure race bike to a street bike or even a race spec superbike is really apples to oranges. That said around any race track you can think of I suspect even a stock 1125 would turn faster times than the RW. I don't think 1985 race slicks can hold a candle to modern sticky street tires. Add in a skinny, flexy set of forks (as good as you could get back in 1985) and the fact that the thing was almost impossible to ride fast and I can't imagine it's lap time could compare to any top line sport bike of today. | ||
| Elvis |
Great info Dave. Thanks for your input! Do you have any actual horsepower values for the RW750 ( crank? wheel? RPM? )? | ||
| Davegess |
Something over 160 if my memory serves. There is a dyno chart going in the book. | ||
| Elvis |
There is a dyno chart going in the book. Cool! That's the kind of little thing I'm really looking forward to seeing when it comes out}. | ||
| Blake |
Dave, Thanks for the correction. Don't know what I was thinking. The RW750 engine dyno chart shows 170 BHP! YIKES! | ||
| Davegess |
It wasn't the HP it was the 30 hp gain in just a few revs. The thing must have hit like a bomb. I think the dyno run I have shows 163 and change. | ||
| Rocketman |
Don't know what I was thinking. Serves you right for trying to bait me  Rocket | ||
| Blake |
Guilty.  |
