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Ministerofsinister
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My ride is a 2006 XB12SS with 3600 miles. I just got my bike back from the shop from a problem with it dying every couple of days. The initial problem I had was when I would be driving down the road, I would loose the gages and the engine light would come on. Shortly after, the bike would die. I took it to the dealer, and it took them 3-weeks to diagnose that it was a faulty voltage regulator. So I just went on a 1.5 hour ride and guess what, the bike left me stranded with the same problems it was having before.

Last night I checked out the voltage coming from the stator. It was on the low side @ 1000, 2000 RPM and was under the recommended 16 volts per 1000 RPM when I had it up to 3000 RPM. Could this Cause it? What else do I need to look for. If I charge up the battery, I get 2-3 days of riding without a problem, but these are short trips. I really do not want to leave my bike at the dealership for 3 more weeks until I at least come up with what it is. Please help!
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Vagelis46
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds like the Voltage Regulator (VR) is dead.

I have changed 2 VR so far, so it common for me. When they are bad, I get hesitation for a few days, then the bike works OK, and then the bike dies , and it works again and then it dies.....and so on....

I bet it is the VR not charging. I recomend change your VR, and then perform a test for your charging system.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How far under the recommended 16 volts?

I'd diagnose it before I started buying parts.

If it were me, I would start with the stator diagnosis... it's fairly easy.
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Strongly recommend you do the stator diagnosis. I have had this problem with several other Harley bikes (non-Buell) but with the same design. When the stator starts to fail - all sorts of bad things happen.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ministereo, where you able to get your bike working, just asking cause my bike died today with same way yours did. Hoeveri did chargr my bike and the battery was dead.
I will ride it not far until i know is not something more serious, but if it dies gain it might similar to your problem,
my bike had 30k. anyways keep us posted on your progress. thanks
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Edmbueller
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike did the exact same thing waited 3 weeks for a new VR and three days after getting the bike back it died mid ride and stranded me again - the shop has no idea what's wrong.....please HELP!!

'04 xb12r 12000 kms
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Hooper
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This sounds like what's happening with my 2006 Ulysses. This weekend I went on a 100-mile ride all over the county. Once back in town, I hit a store for a few minutes, returned to the bike, started off, and it died. The high beam indicator turns on, but all other indicators are off. The odometer still has power. The head/taillights are out. None of the other switches function, including the starter button. Turning the ignition on and off again causes the dial needles to sweep as normal. I checked the battery terminals and other connections, which seemed to be fine. After a few minutes, I tried one last time, turned the key, and all was back to normal. I started it up and rode on. It happened a couple minutes later in heavy traffic. Same process - a few minutes later of sitting, and I could start it again. It happened one more time close to home. I eventually got it home, but am absolutely furious.

Symptoms and conditions:
- Hesitant start (it cranks once, goes silent, then starts right up) - I've read others talking about this.
- Low fuel light had just come on.
- It was cold out, 35 degrees Fahrenheit.

I have yet to check the battery's charge, but wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this total conk-out.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just sent Steve (Ministerofsinister) a note via PM/email asking him to chime in here.
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Ministerofsinister
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright guy's...Sorry it took so long for the reply. Holiday season has been hell!

Back to the fun stuff... It has been a while since my original post, so bear with me and I will answer any questions you have to the best of my ability.

I ended up calling another dealer. My thinking was that all of the tests that I had performed led to the voltage regulator that had been replaced and I needed a second opinion. After that call, the second dealer told me that he would try swapping out the battery. A new battery was something like 50-60 bucks, so I was a little hesitant. I told him what my voltage was and he told me that he had tons bad batteries lying around that would read the correct voltage. I decided that i would try it his way.

I picked up the battery and installed it. I then went on a 4 hour ride to my favorite twisty section of Utah, with my old battery fully charged in the tail bag.

I have not had a problem since then; believe me my fingers were crossed for a long time. I have been putting the bike on a battery tender when not in use and have left it on it since the start of winter. Guess we will see what happens come spring after I put the short tail on the bike.

hope this helps...
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure your battery cables are TIGHT.

I know it doesn't seem like it's possible, but ALL KINDS of gremlins are caused by loose (seems tight but isn't) battery cables.

I've had everything from guages sweeping at freeway speed to total shutdown, standing on the side of the road scratching my head and then it starts right up and runs for weeks with no further issues.

Make absolutely sure the ends of the cables are clean, tight, flat up against the battery terminals. Dielectric grease on the contacts won't hurt either.
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Ministerofsinister
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just went through the same experience again. My bike died while heading to work. at first glance I thought that I would be buying another battery or voltage regulator to cure the problem. I did some research on this site and found the 77 connector problem. When I pulled mine apart, it really did not look like the little amount of melted plastic could cause this issue. I cleaned it all up, and put it back together and it is charging fine now. I love this site! I know I saw in one of the threads, the part number for the replacement connector, but now I am having a hard time finding it. I do not need the regulator, just the replacement connector. If anyone has this info, could you please respond?
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