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Garrett2
| Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 06:29 pm: |
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saw one today, sat on it, heard it run. awesome. but its a bit tall for me, i could get both feet on ground at same time, but not flat-footing. options to cure this? anyway to lower a stock bike (as it came from factory) about an inch? |
Wadeo
| Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 11:05 pm: |
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The website specs out the 1125R as having a seat height of 30.5 inches. Depending on the source your S3 is between 29.5 and 31.5 inches. Is the seat wider on the 1125R? I usually didn't flat-foot my X1 (with Corbin seat) and the same with my current 1098; never been a problem... I'm curious about lowering the new Buell too. |
Garrett2
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 06:31 am: |
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im not sure if its wider or not, i jus tknow i cant flatfoot it and id like to be able to, give me more peace of mind |
Darkice19
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 07:33 am: |
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I'm 5foot 10 and my feet just barely make it flat footed. You could get a custom seat made that is lower. Might get about an inch of difference. |
Crusty
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 08:09 am: |
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options to cure this? Buy a Uly and ride it around for a couple of years. The 1125 will feel like a Low boy. |
Garrett2
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:49 pm: |
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wow what an awesome idea crusty... |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 01:01 pm: |
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I'm sure adjustable or lower rear shocks will be on the market in time. And the front tubes should be somewhat adjustable in the triple trees. |
Smoke
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 07:55 pm: |
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at 5'6" the 1125's i rode at cresson sure felt more comfortable than the uly and the ss i also demo'd last year. tippie toes on the ground with those two. the 1125 let me flat foot one or balls of the feet two. i'm not worried, it's about the same as my s1. tim |
Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 07:56 pm: |
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Why are americans worried about being flat footed? I was a little concerned when I got my 12 and then I got used to being on the toes and balls of my feet. The only time it is a problem is backing out of a parking space on the wrong grade. In this case I just pull it out before I get on it. No big deal. Honestly. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 08:08 pm: |
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I think it's pretty fair to say that any bike you can get both feet flat down with is too short for you to ride comfortably. +1 to what Crusty said. I've got a 30" inseam and I've been riding a Uly for a year. Now my S3 feels like a pocket bike when I sit on it and put my feet down. |
86129squids
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 08:20 pm: |
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Seat height is certainly a crucial factor- but we humans can learn to deal with marginal ergos to enjoy the machine for what it is. I'll fit the Uly best overall, but the experience of riding the 1125R is worth the compromise physically. THIS IS A PHENOMENALLY GREAT SPORTBIKE. I want both. |
Old_man
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 09:16 pm: |
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Boots with thick soles and heels. |
Swampy
| Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 09:50 pm: |
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I have come to the opinion that you are not supposed to ride with your feet flatfooted to the ground, so the important question is: Do your feet touch the pegs? |
Garrett2
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:33 am: |
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actaullly it is important to be able to get a good grip on the ground. some of you may be fair-weather riders, but its not uncommon for me to ride in rain. the ground gets slippery and id rather have 20+square inches of contact vs 6 i just knkow on most jap bikes have dogbones or whatever, easy to drop it an inch or two, id like taht, its a tall bike, just curious if there is anything stock i can do to make it lower. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:57 am: |
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I've ridden plenty in rain; I don't see where that presents any significant problem with the bike's height. You've just got to pay more attention to your footing; sometimes you have to hang a cheek off the seat. It's not that big of a deal. The rear shock on the 1125R is direct acting so the only way to lower the rear end is to substitute a shorter shock. Also realize if you drop the bike that much (2 inches) you are going to significantly compromise the lean angle. |
Cobralightning
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:18 am: |
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The only thing that stopped me from buying a Uly 2 years ago was the seat height. As I could not get comfortable enough to stop without leaning over a little. So I am glad I waited because now I have an 1125R. But I think getting your feet on the ground is important to feeling comfortable with your bike. |
Darkice19
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:58 am: |
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The only reason i can see to being able to go flat footed is if your on a steep hill that runs sideways one of your feet will be dangling. If your bike normally lets you go flatfooted you would still be able to get your toes on the ground. |
Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 08:48 am: |
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Fair weather riders that is a hoot. Oh no another my buellist is bigger than yours. Don't worry no matter how tough you are (riding wise) there are 5 here that do what you are bragging about daily. |
Garrett2
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 04:01 pm: |
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dude im not bragging, im not trying to show off, but all that ride in slick conditions know how slippery asphault can be at intersections. thats fact. thats not me trying to act tough, thats just me having a worry about not getting a firm plant on the pavement. i swear to god, some of you are off of the deep end. and to be honest, i dont care if i lost some lean angle if it were an inch shorter. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:28 pm: |
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If you can stand the ridicule, these will get your feet flat on the ground. |
Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:30 pm: |
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OMG now that is funny |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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It may be funny, but they'd be a damn sight cheaper than a shorter rear shock and they wouldn't compromise the bike's cornering performance any. |
Coal400
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:17 pm: |
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The old man has got a point... This was my solution on the V45 I had. Although, I was not quite that vertically challenged |
Garrett2
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:16 pm: |
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no thanks on the platforms.... |
Xbdude
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:46 pm: |
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I must agree with Garrett2. Saw one, sat on it, started it. Crisp throttle response, great sound. I ride a Scg, so the 1125 seemed way too high. For you guys not vertically challenged, putting your one foot down accidentally on a slippery surface can be quite embarrassing-- especially at a gas station with a gaggle of onlookers! Looks like I'm going to wait until a lower version appears, and (go ahead, say it . . ) maybe they'll change from that horrible blue frame color. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:03 pm: |
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just get some 4" heel boots, guys might look at you funny but you get to ride |
Jaimec
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:43 pm: |
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<rant> WHY DO PEOPLE FIND IT NECESSARY TO FLAT FOOT A MOTORCYCLE?? Sorry for yelling, but that is the stupidest excuse I've ever heard for not buying a bike. Only BEGINNERS "NEED" to flat foot a bike. As long as the balls of your feet are on the ground, that is ALL you need. Lowering the seat involves either lowering the pegs and sacrificing cornering clearance, or jacking up your legs so high during riding that the seating position becomes unbearable. Your feet are on the ground less than 2% of the time you're on the bike. It makes more sense to be more comfortable at the 98% level than the 2% level, doesn't it?? You are also far more stable by having your left foot SOLIDLY on the ground while your right foot remains on the brake to keep it still. This is especially true on an incline. </rant> |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 02:34 pm: |
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And what happens when you roll into the parking lot and put your one foot down on 4 or 5 Maple leaves wet with dew? You're goin' down. It's not pretty. DAMHIK Z |
Bobr
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 03:02 pm: |
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Holy cow! This guy's thinking about buying an 1125r, asks a legitimate question, and gets lectured (from some anyway). I too would like a lower 1125r. I own an xbsl and a dyna T-sport. I have a 26" inseam. On both bikes I can have the balls of both feet on the ground at a stop. Since the xb is so much lighter I can maneuver it easily in most parking situations. It is the first bike I've owned that really fits me, and it is a real pleasure. One of the great things about BMC is they offer a selection of models to fit different riders. "Built from the rider down" is the phrase I recall. So if Garrett wants a lower 1125r, what's the problem? The points about compromised handling are well taken, and could be made without scathing rants that run the risk of running off potential Buell riders. Buell certainly has kept smaller riders in mind with the lighting low and cg models, yet managed to produce a lower machine with excellent handling. Maybe they'll do it with the 1125r as well. Meanwhile Garrett, consider an xb12scg. The engine has just been improved and the xbs are great bikes. Alternatively you might think about raising the handlebars on an 1125r. A little bit of forward stretch on a sportbike can result in lifting your feet further from the ground when you're stopped. |
Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 03:09 pm: |
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+1 Jaimec |