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Arillius13
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what/where do you have to go to get buell specific training? I've always done all my own work and would actually like to get trained for it. And id like to learn about the new engine.
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Doerman
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe this to be true:
Only HD dealership employees can get training on HD and Buell products.
Asbjorn
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also believe that is the case, although maybe in the future places like MMI might offer it.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See if you can get a part time job at a H-D/Buell shop working on Saturdays when they're backed up. Negotiate the training as part of the package.
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Buzzie
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you do have to work at a dealer to take the training. and sure mmi may add the training in the future....but not anytime soon.. all the classes that are offered fill in about two hours after becoming available gang....best bet is buy the first service manual you can get your hands on and read.
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Court
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Negotiate the training as part of the package.

And it will take some negotiating. There are provisions in the enrollment for an embargo and where and whew you may use some of the material.

It's intent is to prevent investing money in training and then having someone skip off to a non-Buell dealer.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since this is a Rotax engine, might training be available through other Rotax training sources (i.e. aviation/powersports?)
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Jont
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing worse than training people and losing them is not training them and keeping them.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This engine, we've been through this, shares little with prior Rotax products.

There is a comprehensive training program being conducted in Wisconsin. It requires that participants execute an agreement to not "steal the technology" (or something to that effect) and if I were buying an 1125r I'd insist on seeing my dealer participated.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This engine, we've been through this, shares little with prior Rotax products

This I'm aware of. However, I thought maybe..perhaps...Rotax might be kind enough to offer training outside of Buell's auspicious eyes(it IS their product, after all!)...for a buck or two, naturally.
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Buzzie
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the rotax was designed specifically for Buell and the training stipulation just says that if you go for a dealer you cant teach at a school for a year after taking the class.....I am going in feb. will let you know how easy it is to work on
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good grief, it's a motor not a transporter.
Get the shop manual. done.
All training does is help you do it faster, not better.
Unless you're working at a dealership, you've got time to sit down with a beer or cup of coffee and read up.
Everything you need to know is in the manual.

Z
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Buellnick
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets hope they got the torque specs right in the manual...
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Buzzie
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac,

Right you are bro....but who else pays for a trip to Milwaukee .. the perks are cool...and I wish i had the time to have a beer and read up lol.

the place i work at is so cool....(how cool is it)

they are paying me my regular wages.....

paying for the hotel.....(the chic is mine)

they supply food ...

and the hotel offers free beverages the first day in the hotel bar....

and ...now that the museum is open ...i am going to have a ton of fun and get to take one all the way apart....thats the kicker.

sorry if i am hopped up ..i just think its cool.

And if you have never been in the university or heard about it ...they have cutaways of almost every part you can imagine including fully moving electrically motorized motors spining I just think its cool that they take all the time and effort to do it.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buzz - I'm jazzed for you, and you are "Who this is for" as a dealer wrench. It's a giant "feather in your cap" for the future and a nice "paid vacation". If I was in your shoes, I'd be stoked too. I'm jealous for all the cutaways.
I'm saying that for "Owners", the factory training would be a waste, as we aren't under the time constraints that a dealer wrench is.

Betcha I'm almost as excited when I get my shop manual as you are to go to school for the engine. Gearheads...

Z
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Rah7777777
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buzzie im sitting in chicago doing the same thing. well not for cool as buell but for benz.
And well to say the least im not as excited as you are about it. but hey....
it is nice though, every so often, get flown out somewhere eat and drink and sleep on works dime, plus get paid more then I normally would for the week.

4 months ago it was houston (yea, shit hole I know, but I used to live there so it was nice to visit old friends) 11 months ago it was florida..........so on and so on.

but I agree with zac. get a manual and some beer and a few bucks for parts you might break and sit down in the garage, turn on some eagles and get it done!!!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a party Robert.
Should be sending you some wiring pix soon. Buell/HD shop down the road got their 1125R today, expect mine tomorrow.
Enjoy the training. I don't get to do that too often. My company sent me to Massachusetts for a few days last July to learn our mechanical test fixture(Instron), that was a cool trip.

Z
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1125R technical instructor lead training is starting 04Feb2008.

Two DVDs, the second including on-line instruction, have been made and the first has been out already for in-shop exposure training. The second is due soon and will cover specific service procedures.
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