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Rfischer
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 09:59 am: | 
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Yeah, that'd work good. Really need to get an intercooler on it tho', pulling timing to deal with charge-air temp is a band-aid that doesn't really address the durability issue. Could proly add a couple rows to the side-pod rads for air-to-air intercooling. Kinda' like the designs used on big truck diesels. Still think you'd need to take the CR down to no more than 10:1 with some dished pistons...
But, as you allude, why bother?? It's already so good.  |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 11:14 am: |
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone from Buell say there would never be a water-cooled engine. HOWEVER, there were PLENTY of posts stating that the REVOLUTION ENGINE would never be in a Buell. Maybe that got misconstrued as to being "Never a water-cooled engine?" |
Chadhargis
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 09:40 pm: |
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I just want the 1124 Ulysses.  |
Crusty
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:53 pm: |
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I WANT A SPORT-TOURER!!! |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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Why haven't I been able to order a 1125X yet? By the time my wife, son, and I make our return trip bike trip (on 3 bikes) to East Troy next July, I'd sure like to know a 1125ULY is there waiting to be drooled over. If it is ready by that time, please show it at the factory and not penalize those of us that can't stay until the last minute like you did with the 1125R at Road America. A trip all the way from Omaha, NE is quite the ride and deserves better especially since gas and lodging for three ain't exactly cheap.
AND Erik, please be ready to re-sign my 06' ULY in WHITE this time because the black pen you used at Homecoming can hardly be seen. My wallets open for the 1125X and my son want my 06' ULY. |
Bearly
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:46 am: |
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I want the R and the X. Yea, that's the ticket. (or how about a RX version for the medicated, he he).
Two bikes, one motor.
Hey that's idea. Buy two frames... and one motor. Like my Weedeater. I have the string trimmer, the rotary blade, the blower and the edger attachment. All with the same motor.
So the bikes could be modular. Going on the long haul? Plug in the power plant to the Touring Frame. Going to the track, plug it into the R model. Going out to the country, plug into the Uly frame.
As you know all bikes make compromises for the intended use(s). With this method you could have it all for less money. Just undue the kwick disconnects for fuel, throttle(maybe FBW) and the computer. Pull a pin for the front shaft and take the pulley off the engine with the belt. Lower the power unit out of the one bike and raise into the next using a standard atv lift. No hand tools required.
You could call it the Buell Bike System.
Or the Buell Modular Bike System.
Order your first two bikes for 15k!
Order four and the fifth on is free!
Get the new tracked bike version for the snow!
(no hate mail, I'm stuck in SW Virginia [covington] in a Hotel room) I'll be home tonight at midnight. I should be ok then... maybe. |
Ducxl
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:53 am: |
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Interesting article and discussion about Ducati's own 1200 "Punch-Out" it seems very difficult to do for a sporting Vee-Twin |
Diablo1
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:54 am: |
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Not so difficult since Ducati obviously knows what they are doing. 200cc is 20% more displacement than the 1000cc 4-cylinder bikes. The reason Ducati wanted the rules change was so they could reduce the state of tune (rpm required to compete)and cost of more frequent maintenance. The 1200cc motor doesn't have to rev as high to make the same power as the 1000cc twin and the power/rpm curve will be fatter everywhere - area under the curve larger so the bike will be faster everywhere.
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/03december07_baylis sready.htm |
Trojan
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:50 am: |
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The reason Ducati wanted the rules change was so they could reduce the state of tune
A promise that they have already broken, even before the season starts.
The 1098R at Qatar was already faster than all of the IL4 opposition, yet Ducati want to make the engines cheaper,more reliable and reduce the state of tune?
There was a big argument in BSB recently because the new British rules state that the stock pistons have to be used. Ducati threw their toys out of the pram because they insisted that 'race' pistons and rods had to be used because the stock ones aren't strong enough (a fact that current 1098 owners will be none to happy about I'm sure!). BSB got their wish and the BSB bikes will race with stock pistons next year, so it will be interesting to se how reliable they are.
Upping the capacity of a race bike to 1200cc isn't as easy as it sounds, particulalry when the motor is already pushing out about as much power as it safely can within tolernaces. The WSB 1098R motor is substantially different in lots of respects from the smaller 1098S lump. When KTM decided to up the capacity of the LC8 engine from 990 to 1049 ( and eventually 1190 in the RC8-R) they had to redesign virtually the whole engine from the ground up. As a result it shares very few parts with the Superduke engine. |
Diablo1
| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 10:55 am: |
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A promise that they have already broken, even before the season starts.
The 1098R at Qatar was already faster than all of the IL4 opposition, yet Ducati want to make the engines cheaper,more reliable and reduce the state of tune?
Did Ducati promise to make the 1200cc engine slower than the 1000cc 4-cylinders? I don't think so. My WAG is that the new big twin is running lower rpm than the old smaller engine. As the season goes along, if Ducati proves to have too much of an advantage, they will be given restrictor plates according to the rules.} |
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