| Author | Message | ||
     Andrejs2112 |
I was wondering if anyone could recommend powder coating a muffler. I am going to get a muffler from Odie and want to have it painted when it's done. Any recommendations for a powder coater? What did you pay, or get quoted? What about JetHot? Sounds like $$$. Thanks, AR | ||
| Jaimec |
I was under the impression a powder coat wouldn't stand up to the heat. JetHot or ceramic would be a better bet, I think. I just used Rustoleum high heat paint on mine. | ||
| Xb9ser |
I had mine HPC coated $50 I think and $130 for pipes coated inside and out  | ||
| Andrejs2112 |
Thanks. What is HPC coat? I like the looks of that set-up. -AR | ||
| T9r |
I had a muffler and header powder coated gloss black. I was told that the powder coating was more durable, when dealing w/ black as a powder coat compared to a ceramic coat. I never installed the stuff but it looked good when I got it back. The cost in this area was a little more, around $100 for each.   | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"I was told that the powder coating was more durable, when dealing w/ black as a powder coat compared to a ceramic coat." The different colors of ceramic are differnet degrees of heat, Black is one of the lowest Temps, our ceramic is up to 500°. I'm not sure how powder coating is done, but if it's a dip then a bake, there's no way it's more durable than ceramic. Ceramic is a thermal spray that bonds with metal, not just a coating. My company sells both the powders and the equipment to do this. They're doing my header and can all black this winter, I'll post pics when they're done. (Message edited by buellinachinashop on November 27, 2007) | ||
| Ironken |
Buellina, If you guys do this kind of work, I don't wanna rob ya. But if you don't, I would suggest Performance Coatings. They Ceramic coated my D&D for my X-1. Great job at about $135....that was a few years ago though....Kenny | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'm not sure how powder coating is done, but if it's a dip then a bake, there's no way it's more durable than ceramic. Powder coating is done by pre-heating the part and then applying an electrostatic charge to the part. A "mist" of very fine powdered dry paint is sprayed onto the part and the combination of heat and the charge cause it to stick. The part is then placed in an oven and heated until the paint powder particles melt and flow together. Mechanically it's a very durable finish, but I have no idea how well it holds up to heat. I imagine it'd do fine for the muffler but not so well for the headers. | ||
| Vortec57 |
Check with www.moorepower.com they have done things for me in the past at rates way below jet-hot with just as good of results. They do ALL the coatings for speedway motors headers (big time if you know cars) | ||
| Damnut |
I have my race can powdercoated and it looks GREAT!!!! It has to be done in a high-temp powder though. I had my header ceramic coated and it looked like shit after a year. I think I'm going to do my header in powder this time. I'll post pictures if anyone wants them. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Buellina, If you guys do this kind of work, I don't wanna rob ya. But if you don't, I would suggest Performance Coatings. They Ceramic coated my D&D for my X-1. Great job at about $135....that was a few years ago though....Kenny" We just sell the equipment and powders, but our fabrication lab does custom thermal coating on large industrial jobs, so nope, no loss here. I'm getting my pipe and can done..fo free. | ||
| Jlnance |
AR - I would suggest ceramic coating rather than powder coating. The exhaust components get very hot, and the powder coating will not hold up well. You mentioned Jet-Hot and asked about HPC. They are now the same company. I have had two mufflers coated, and gotten prices on headers as well. I passed on the headers only because I did not want to take them off the bike. Mufflers are cheap to coat. I think the Uly muffler was $55. Mufflers get coated only on the outside, which is why it is inexpensive. Headers are more expensive because both the inside and the outside are (well should be) coated. The $130 Xb9ser mentioned sounds about right. The coatings come in several different colors. Remember that black radiates heat, and some people have said that they can feel an increase in heat coming off the header after having it coated black. My headers are uncoated, so I can't personally confirm that. If I had them coated, I'd still go with black though, I think it looks great.  Here is info from the HPC website: http://www.hpcoatings.com/am/products/products_hea t_hipercoat.aspx | ||
| Jlnance |
I would suggest ceramic coating rather than powder coating. The exhaust components get very hot, and the powder coating will not hold up well. Yes I am quoting myself. I should elaborate. There are different kinds of powder coatings and I think even the ceramic coatings may go on as a powder. The kind of powder coating that you put on wheels is not designed to be on components that are going to be operating at 800 degrees. If the type of powder that you put on there IS designed for high temperatures, then it of course should work fine. Also, when ceramic is mentioned, people think of flower pots. This isn't that kind of ceramic. I had to use a hammer to get my muffler back on after I had it coated. It didn't chip. (Message edited by jlnance on November 28, 2007) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I was thrown off by "ceramic" as well, thinking it would be fragile like glass, but our Lab manager came into my office and asked if I had a pipe, he wanted to try ceramic coating it, he went on for about 30 minutes on how thermal ceramic coating isn't the same as making a cermaic flower pot. | ||
| Bads1 |
I know a shop that by request will do colors....Red,Blue,White,Purple,etc. They are ceramic coated first then powder coated to my understanding. I've seen red and white. I have seen how the white held up and it looked pretty good. |
