| Author | Message | ||
     Brickcop |
I purchased Al's (American Sport Bike) remapped ecm from a guy selling his from a 06 Uly. I connected it into my 07 XB12Ss and it ran pretty good with some minor hesitation down low. Al recommended I reset the TPS and I did so at the dealer. The bike was running pretty damn good after that. I recently took it to the dealership and they have been fine tuning the remap but stated that it was running a bit lean and they had it on the dyno for an entire day. They still have the bike and I will see tomorrow if they finished tuning it.} | ||
| Warbler |
??? Sounds like you might be getting scammed, or dealing with incompetent Techs? I've had another bike with a Power Commander Dyno tuned several times, and even doing the cylinders separately, it only took a couple hours! | ||
| Xl1200r |
My ECM map from American Sport Bike has had some hiccups and hesitations when cold, as well as some minor surging around 60mph. I've been meaning to reset the TPS and AFV, but I'm too lazy. I'm told it should do the trick. You say it really smoothed things out for you? | ||
| Ftd |
I have a Direct Link tuned ECM from American Sport Bike on my ULY. Before that I had it tuned twice at different shops with AFV creep coming each time. Al and Terry spent a lot of time/effort developing their MAPS and they do not produce the AFV creep phenomenom. If I were you I would NOT have anybody modify one of Al's MAPS. I suggest you call him and get his take on it. Frank | ||
| Skully |
Mark - If you've ridden a couple of miles or more at a fairly steady state throttle setting, the AFV has reset itself. It constantly updates. Frank - I agree. I helped develop the street portion (versus dyno) of the D&D map for the XB9. I can tell you that a map produced strictly on the dyno with DirectLink may not work too well on the street. Both portions are needed to prevent the AFV creep that you mention. Keith | ||
| Brickcop |
Thanks for the replies. After another half day of tweeking the map they got it to run pretty good. The HP and TQ numbers are not as good as I would have likes but oh well!! 85 HP and 78 TQ. I have to reset the TPS again I believe because even though iit is running fairly well it again surges at low spee/rpm. When they reset the TPS last time this seemed to fix the low speed surging. | ||
| Brickcop |
By the way they charged me for 4 hours of dyno time at $300!! | ||
| No_rice |
so the matched usb connector came with the mapped ecm you bought? did you buy the direct link tuning software or did the dealership say they had it? because without that stuff they really cant be tuning your bike for you. | ||
| Glitch |
85 HP and 78 TQ That ain't bad for an XB9. | ||
| No_rice |
that was on an 07 XB12Ss glitch. for comparison my 9 made 94/74 on the exhaust shootout dyno after Al spent 8-9 hours tuning it. that was with kevins DrummerSS on it. although i dont know what this bike has on it for exhaust. i am still wondering if they have the directlink tuning software and such. as far as i know they cant tune that thing without the rest of the setup? | ||
| Glitch |
Oh ok, I just looked at his profile, it says XB9S. Anyway, 85 HP and 78 TQ is exactly what I got on the Buell Race kit on my XB9S. Just goes to show I didn't read the original post very well...  (Message edited by glitch on November 15, 2007) | ||
| Brickcop |
Yes unfortunately these numbers are for my XB12Ss and the dealer did have all the directlink software from Al. I'm not to happy with the results although it does pull harder (seat of the pants dyno) throughout the rpm range then before. They spent a day and a half trying to tune it. They got the AF graph as straight as they could and now it runs good but hesitates at low speed again which should be resolved by resetting the TPS again. | ||
| Ftd |
I hate to beat a dead horse but after dyno tuning and the dreaded AFV creep what my ULY suffered from was bad drivability. Especially low speed off idle hestitation. Get one of Al's MAPs that fits your application and leave it alone. That is your best bet. | ||
| Svo1023 |
Well you know how different dyno's can be...mine is 108h.p. torque is a bit low though...all that for about 1000 bucks.. | ||
| Xl1200r |
for comparison my 9 made 94/74 on the exhaust shootout dyno after Al spent 8-9 hours tuning it. Al's dyno was reading a little happy for those shootouts. Notice that on an XB12, nearly all of peak power figures were around 100-104hp on a 12, INCLUDING the stock pipe. I'm convinced that, aside from a Micron, changing the exhaust on a 12 will only move the powerband around and not effect the peak numbers all the much. I can't remember what my exact numbers where, but my 12 with Al's map and a Spec OPS pipe made something around 86-87hp on Liberty's dyno, and made over 100 on Al's for the shootout. Gotta compare to a baseline on the same machine on the same dyno, not someone else's machine on a different dyno. | ||
| No_rice |
well, i do remember that kevin was able to predict what the drummers where going to be running and was almost spot on. reason being that he had gotten almost the same numbers out of them on(if i remember right) 3 other dyno's. so my figuring says it cant be as far off as everyone hopes though. mine hasnt been on a dyno for well over a year, at that time it pulled fairly close to the original numbers. regardless one thing i have learned is i really dont care what it says, i care how it runs. and my poor little 9 pulls like a freight train! it pisses off alot of 12's and 600's. simply because it has a ton of power EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME and i love it. thats the real key!!! | ||
| Xl1200r |
regardless one thing i have learned is i really dont care what it says, i care how it runs. and my poor little 9 pulls like a freight train! it pisses off alot of 12's and 600's. simply because it has a ton of power EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME and i love it. thats the real key!!! I'm in the same boat. The bike just feels faster now, and the front wheel comes up anytime I run it hard through a shift. I'm a happy camper. |
