| Author | Message | ||
     U4euh |
Fixing to go into replacing the transmission. What I would like to know is what parts ,gaskets, ringy dings, doodie dads, ........ that i should begin buying. I have already gotten a transmission. I have gotten as far as taking the primary cover off and staring incorently at the clutch pack. removed the ramp and hold down nuts. What special tool ,or home made, can I get/use to remove the clutch pack/basket. I have the tool to place between the gears to lock in place. Looking for tips,tricks,tools, maybe even a trip if someone is experienced in this and would be willing to show me/let me help do some wrenching. JIM | ||
| Bad_karma |
Jim I'm sure the more experienced will be along with the sun. But you need not disassemble the clutch to remove the assembly. You need to pull both the clutch and the front sprocket assembly as a unit. If I remember correctly the crank sprocket is left hand threads. Joe | ||
| Dwunundabkr |
U4euh i wish i could help but i pulled the motor and took it to the tech to do, it was beyond my wrenching good luck i will keep an eye on your post to see how you are going | ||
| Jlnance |
Jim - Do you have a service manual? You can use my Uly manual if you think it would help. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
JimR, When you doing the swap? | ||
| Barker |
I used a harmonic balancer puller to remove clutch pack. I got a universal puller kit for harbor freight the other day for $5.99. | ||
| U4euh |
Got the manual, thanks JIM! Bigdaddy-gonna start rotating the motor this weekend, so I should be ready to swap by the next weekend! But you need not disassemble the clutch to remove the assembly.You need to pull both the clutch and the front sprocket assembly as a unit. So once I remove the crank nut, will it all come off!!!? Didn't see that in the manual. More info on that please. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Its in the manual in at least one place, but (at least on my 2000 manual) there were places where it said take the clutch apart as well. Definately remove the clutch / stator / chain as a unit. When I did it, I forget what all parts I got ahead of time, but I did have to run up to Sears to get a "really big snap ring" pliar. I can't remember right now the specifics, and I think that was only because I was taking apart the cartridge. If you are just swapping entire cartridges, it's cake. Be sure you inspect your 5th gear drive assembly while you have access. | ||
| Spike |
I haven't done it on an XB, but that was the case with my M2. There was one big nut in the center of the clutch that would allow the entire clutch assembly to be removed in one piece. When are you doing the swap? | ||
| Xb9 |
First, what are the symptoms?? Tranny work is something I would not recomend with out the service manual. (Message edited by xb9 on November 08, 2007) | ||
| U4euh |
Stuck in 5th gear. W/the primary cover removed, I get about 1/4 inch travel in and outboard on the horizontal plane of the shifter shaft. (Message edited by u4euh on November 09, 2007) | ||
| Reepicheep |
U4euh... that may be the best news you have heard all month. That suggests to me that when you pull the clutch assembly / primary chain / stator bell as a unit, you will find that the shifter shaft (which is bolted right there in front of you) has worked loose. That could easily make the pawl no longer engage the pins on the drums. So in effect, you are not stuck in fifth gear, you just have broken linkage so you can't tell it to shift any more. It could be an easy fix... a lot easier then splitting the cases (XB) or pulling the tranny cartridge (tuber). You might have to just tighten some bolts. | ||
| Knickers |
Once you get the primary assembly out this is what the shift shaft and mechanism should look like if everything is in order.  | ||
| Reepicheep |
Hmmm... different then I remember on my old Cyclone... take what I said with a grain of salt. Have not had the primary apart on my 9sx... it only has 20,000 miles on it  | ||
| Bad_karma |
Pictures are just so right. Joe | ||
| U4euh |
Still workin on geting the basket off, time is the issue, bout time I get knee deep in oil and .......The wife or daughter says "It is time for......."  | ||
| Djkaplan |
I'm seriously thinking it's the shift pawl that's the culprit. You'll get the clutch basket off, see the problem, and have the bike back on the road the same day. If that actually happens, buy a lottery ticket right away... | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'm looking at that picture up there... how is that shifter shaft attached? Is it held in place by the primary cover when it is attached? The M2 had some bolts that did the job, but I don't see them there... | ||
| New12r |
The shift shaft is only held on with a spring and the primary cover. Jim, I read the whole procedure in the manual and I could do it, I would however have to borrow a couple tools from a dealer to get it done easily. this would also take me some time to get finished. Of course as we spoke last night I could use the sale of the motor. |
