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Sheridan_bueller
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 06:35 pm: | 
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DITTO!!!
"cant wait to get my 1125 and show them what the crap is up"
They're gonna go... |
Dre99gsx
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 06:52 pm: |
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Your right about that., almost every bike out there looks like some animal. Look at the new ducati hypermotard. The front fascia looks like a duck bill with huge nostrils.
Most of the JAP bikes now look like oragami? The fairings have angles all over the place. I don't know where they're going with shapes now adays. The speed triple front looks like a big fly with its huge headlights. Heck, the XB9/12 series look like that cartoon magician from dragon ballz or sorts.
There is really no bike that looks mean/agressive. The older year ninjas and ducatis looked very nice.
Ducati is the only one who knows the right lines in a bike.
Seriously, if the 1125r connects the upperfairing+airscoops with a mid/lower fairing, it can look very sexy. Anyone here with good photoshop skills? |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 06:54 pm: |
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HD had expected folks to buy Buell and "move up" to Harley, the opposite is in fact what is occurring.
God I love that!  That statement is absolutely priceless  |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 07:45 pm: |
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Ducati is the only one who knows the right lines in a bike.
Unfortunately, sticking to the right lines of a bike doesn't equate to a practical street bike. Even the Ducati loving moto-journalists admitted that the 1098 needed more function in respect to form. |
No_rice
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:05 pm: |
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just what i need, another preying mantis in my garage... SWEET! lol
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M2nc
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:27 pm: |
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I would also add that in Europe, the naked look is in. Buell is already popular there in comparison to here in the U.S., so the more naked look of the 1125R may be better received. I think the Ducati 1098 is a beautiful bike, but its just another Me-Too bike. The 1125R is a Super Bike that can not be confused with any other bike. Its design contributes to Buell's exclusivity that may actually help it in the market place. I have a Buell or a GSX-ZXR1098RR. |
Brad1445
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 10:35 pm: |
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How the heck do you call the 1125R naked. The scoops look like one of my moms bras covering what should not be covered. WEll on mom they should be covered, but not on a nekid bike.
(Message edited by brad1445 on October 28, 2007) |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:03 pm: |
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I wonder if Brad has seen the 1125 in person? (An honest question, not a dig)
When I got to school at Pocono, all I saw was a bike...I actually had to *look* to see the scoops. They blend in amazingly well in person...even more so when you're in the important spot - riding it.
I think the stylists and engineers did a great job blending an "alien" part (radiator) into a bike we air-cooled Buellers would recognize as a Buell, and love for its performance. They had to put 'em somewhere....and this beats the hell out of the usual "billboard" placement behind the front wheel IMHO.
If you're basing judgements on photos alone...wait till you can see it in person, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. |
Brad1445
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:13 pm: |
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I have not seen it in person. Point taken, I hope I'm taken as you were. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:33 pm: |
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I think you will be. I was honestly surprised when I saw them in person. I don't mind the scoops, even in the photos...but when I saw it for real I was amazed at how small they actually are. Anon can correct me, I'm sure, but looking down on them they don't appear to be any more than three inches thick (if that much) from inner edge to outer edge. Definitely thinner - or thinner looking - than the race air cleaner on my S1W. Very subtle, very well packaged. |
Rainman
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:35 pm: |
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I haven't seen it in person, either, so I'll reserve judgment. It should be added that neither have I seen Brad's mom in person but I'll take his word on that. |
Dre99gsx
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:37 pm: |
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Thats correct. When I rode the bike at Pocono, looking from above, the scoops looked like they were part of the frame / flow of the bike.
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Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 11:39 pm: |
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And going waay back in the thread...
From what I understand, the clear front turn lenses with amber LEDs are going to be the production version.
I hope they offer a smoked lens kit as an accessory, that way the mirror assemblies will blend in better when I put them on my S2 |
Dbird29
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:05 am: |
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Aren't the scoops just hereditary?
No worse than a canned ham or Helmholtz box on the side of the motor. |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 05:21 am: |
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>>>>When I got to school at Pocono, all I saw was a bike...I actually had to *look* to see the scoops.
Exactly my reaction when I first saw the bike. I looked at it for a bit and had to ask "where's the radiator?".
I never noticed the "pods" until I saw the photos.
As a Harrier fan, I like it.
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Towjam
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 11:14 am: |
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my moms bras
Three words that should never be uttered in the same sentence. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 11:21 am: |
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Those Duc front ends remind me of a trout or something
I'm getting the "bull" or "gorilla" thing with regards to the 1125R... its cool! All upper body... Or even looks like "Mr. Incredible"...
(Message edited by reepicheep on October 29, 2007) |
C4bird
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 08:58 pm: |
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Mr. Incredible... I like I like..... |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 09:49 pm: |
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I'm sorta built like the Tick's mini me so the 1125R would suit me just fine |
Cobralightning
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 03:50 am: |
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I think the 1125R is like that really nice girl you new in college or high school. Not the prettiest girl in class but not bad looking either. She has everything you want on the inside as well as a nice set of air bags. (trying not to be to rude here) By the time I looked up (from the spec sheet)I was in love. And have been lusting after her ever since.  |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 08:36 am: |
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"Ducati is the only one who knows the right lines in a bike."
I don't find the massive cavity around the front wheel at all appealing and it is certainly an open invitation for FOD. |
Nicozzzz
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:03 am: |
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hey , I'don't know why but I remember all Buell models.
I also remember all the ducati sportbikes
916 996 998 999 1098 .
any of us I think can't forget this bikes ..
maybe you get more trouble to identify or remember a japanese bike ...
in sportbike buell is at real first step..
sorry but i can't think at xb R model like a sportbike remain a street fighter for me.
we will see during the year ... .
but actually in sportbike ducati made the line in the last 20 years ...
the other try to do something but .... not at the same level ..
I'm sure that Buell can do this too
(Message edited by nicozzzz on October 31, 2007) |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:44 pm: |
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Nicozzzz,
We believe that Buell will soon be the "weapon of choice" when it come to street fighting or canyon carving. We are in it for the long haul, as we say here in the USA. We believe in our customers, we trust that our customers believe in us!
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Crusty
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:56 pm: |
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Nicozzzz; you forgot the 851. |
Dbird29
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:58 pm: |
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Paso 750 |
Strato9r
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:05 am: |
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Anytime clean-slate ideas are at the core of design, the outcome is bound to be contraversial, which is not a bad thing. Lots of folks thought the Hayabusa was weird looking at first, now there is practically an entire industry supporting that machine alone. I think the 999 Ducati's bodywork is beautiful, others hate it. Same for the Triumph Speed Triple's almost sluttish nudity.
Form will follow function in the most honest designs, and those ideas are accepted by people who see innovation as a good thing. Obviously, things like inverted front forks and under engine exhaust systems have been noticed and incorporated (copied) by other manufacturers, and everyone seems to have just invented concepts like Mass Centralization. I always get a kick out of pointing out to owners of bikes incorporating Buell pioneered features that the trick exhaust under that GSXR is nothing new, just flattery in the highest form.
Truth is, a lot of riders still just buy a different color version of the bike that a buddy owns, which is not a bad thing. Buell has built their following one bike at a time. A loyal core is a desirable thing to have, especially when those customers chose that product BECAUSE it is different. In this case, the product begets the lifestyle, rather than the "Lifestyle" being the support system for the product. And I believe that the calculated, brick by brick construction of Buell's brand loyalty is the solid foundation that it's imminent success will be built on. There is more of us every day. I've met a lot of riders who see the practicality and real world performance of the marque, and will at least consider a Buell as their next machine, just because they have had to follow one through a twisty mountain road. Or because it sounds cool........
When your machines start winning titles in Europe, you are going to attract the attention of a lot of serious riders. When Kevin Cameron loves the design and technology of your bikes, you are going to attract the attention of some serious gearheads. Next thing you know, your bikes are going to win a lot more races, and when that happens, everybody will want in. If the 1125 IS ugly, that will just mean that the competition will be as well, before long....... |
Doerman
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:20 am: |
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+1 to Strato9r's most excellent summary |
Brad1445
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:43 am: |
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With one exception. It's not a clean slate design. I think in there the trouble lies. If a the tail-seat-tank portions were designed at the same time as the front it would have been shaped differently and sized in accordance with the 'new' front. Or the front could have a design that picked up on the lines of the back is so desired but neither case is is true. This does not matter to most people I understand but just for the record as my career is heavily involved with design I can clearly see the two different schools of thought. Both OK in their own ways, I now own my second Firebolt.
For the record this is not a clean slate design. I wish it was. |
Cyclonedon
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 02:23 am: |
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Brad
I didn't like the looks of the Ulysses when it first came out, maybe because of the orange seat, but when I saw the Ulysses (black) in person at the dealer, I liked it and knew that I would own one someday!
I also remember when the XB12STT was introduced, everybody flamed it here on BADWEB, but when people started seeing them at the dealers, most people changed their opinions of the bike and most actually like it.
As for the 1125R, I saw it when it was shown at Road America in July and I thought it was a great looking motorcycle. I would suggest that everyone take a look at it before trashing it!
And for the Ducati, I just don't see what people think is so great about that 1098 model! I don't like it! |
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